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I would like to compare [based on looks and simple onbservation] the Lionel U28C vs. the MTH U30C. a performance evaluation is unfair since the MTH unit is non-powered and the Lionel unit is powered with Legacy electronics. Surprisingly, one would thinklook wise it's a Slam Dunk for the MTH model .... but NOT SO FAST!

 

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While both capture the prototype models dimentions and general features, each mfg/importer has added details that differentiate the other:

  • Both models have the correct GSC truck sideframe types in respect to their road numbers.
  • capture each prototypical dimentions
  • separate grab iron details
  • correct fuel tank/air reservior details and piping.
  • infamous GE U boat exhaust stack
  • rear fan grills magnetically held for easy switch acess.
  • Front and rear pilot drop steps.
  • mu plug.
  • safety chains on front and rear pilots
  • correct GE rectangular numberboard & headlight housings
  • correct horn placements

MTH additional details:

  • coupler lift bar on front and rear pilot
  • finer hand rails/grab rails
  • radio decals on both cab sides [note U28C's were not as delivered with PRR "Radio" decals]
  • ACI decal on hood.
  • correct second generation PRR red/white logos across the body
  • wind deflectors on cab sides

Lionel additional details:

  • very readable warning signs/ builders plated
  • cab sun shades
  • NO "green" marker lights

BOTH are missing:

  • the Wheel Slip Modulator detail found on the fireman's side of the loco's trucks. They are cone shapped devices attached to bearing cap axle ends. 
  • red marker lights on the short hoods

 

This is the Lionel U28C

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and here is the MTH U30C

 

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Firemans side comparison

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Rear Comparisions

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Engineers side comparisions

 

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MTH Cab interior - Notice Green Motor shield in Dummy unit

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Lionel Cab interior. Notice motor shield set back closer to "eletrical cabinet"

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Funny that I purchased the MTH Dummy unit to add a cab interior.... only to find out the dummy wire harness inside is dependent on that motor shield for support. This makes adding the interior to the mth unit a bear... duable but a lot of work too!

The Lionel unit with all its Legacy electronics has ample room for a cab interior. This is due to the motor and motor shield set back toward the "firewall/electrical cabinet area of the cab. 

 

As far as the Lionel unit is concerned, some correct PRR Red/white Microscale decals should do the trick. feel free to add any additional comments/observations.

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But notice the differences in the air intake areas [ below the start of the radiator section ];  for earlier U30C's such as the PRR's [ and by extension U28C's ] the MTH model is correct.  For that, the overly-green paint of the Lionel, and also the font and spacing of the r/n on the cab sides plus the correct white-on-red keystones, in my opinion only the MTH model makes the cut.

 

Best rgds, SZ

Last edited by Steinzeit

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