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Like many of you, I use AC to DC converters for many applications such as Miller signs, building lighting and passenger car lights.  I received the Menards Melrose Place station so I pulled out a converter to hook it up.  I set the convert to 4 volts.  I cut the plug off the building and connected to the converter - nothing.  While fooling around I touched the converter and it was hot, very hot.  I disconnected it and tried a 4.5 volt battery pack.  Still nothing.  I unplugged one of the LED leads and connected it to the batteries - success.  I disconnected the second LED lead and that worked, too.  Connected to the converter, they both worked.  So the problem is the circuit board in the building.  Fortunately, the circuit board was attached with an abundant amount of hot glue.  I removed the board and installed the converter.  The building works great at about 2 volts.

My question is, what is the Menards board supposed to do?  It doesn’t convert AC to DC; it doesn’t regulate voltage.  It does have several resistors, diodes, a choke and some sort of IC under all the hot glue.

Just curious.  Thanks.

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Also, my understanding ( and I don't think many people realize this) is that most Menard's buildings come with two voltage inputs - one on the side of the structure and one underneath the structure and that once you plug voltage into one of those inputs, the other input now acts like a voltage output, so that you can daisy chain buildings together or use the output for whatever other purpose you might have. Obviously, there will be some voltage loss as you daisy chain.

I suspect the board also plays a part in being able to do this.

Richie C. posted:

Also, my understanding ( and I don't think many people realize this) is that most Menard's buildings come with two voltage inputs - one on the side of the structure and one underneath the structure and that once you plug voltage into one of those inputs, the other input now acts like a voltage output, so that you can daisy chain buildings together or use the output for whatever other purpose you might have. Obviously, there will be some voltage loss as you daisy chain.

I suspect the board also plays a part in being able to do this.

Ooh, I hadn't thought of that. Very helpful tip!

Danr posted:

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My question is, what is the Menards board supposed to do?  It doesn’t convert AC to DC; it doesn’t regulate voltage.  It does have several resistors, diodes, a choke and some sort of IC under all the hot glue.

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Can you post a photo of the board you removed?  If you can make out the markings/lettering on the IC, that would be useful to confirm the board's purpose in life.  At the modest price point of these buildings, a manufacturer would be loathe to design-in unnecessary cost. 

Kudos to you for the great photography! 

So in this case Menards includes a voltage regulator IC chip (CX8855) module for buildings with what I consider a modest price point...especially after they recently flushed their stock of un-regulated AC-to-DC wall-warts and re-introduced regulated 4.5V adapters.  I wonder if they discovered folks continue to plug in any-old AC-to-DC wall-wart...or perhaps even their original un-regulated Menards adapter...into their buildings!  Very interesting....

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