I'm no electrician so here it goes, how many Menards transformers can you put on a 20 amp breaker without over loading it. I think there is 27 now.. Thanks.. Bob
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The draw is minimal. You can safely do x-1 with x being the number that trips your breaker.
Hope me that helps.
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What PlasmaHH said is the truth. You can only figure that the power was loss-less through the transformer. In other words since the power is (approximately) 3A X 12 VDC = 36 Watts I would estimate that the power on the primary would be the same which is to say: W = E X I (without the power factor) rearranged 36W = 120 X I <=> 36W/120 = .3 Amps which again is 36W without knowing the power factor, eddy losses etc. You would need to measure the power and phase angle on the primary to know the exact measurements. |
I must say, I'm really dumb when it comes to electrical questions. This is what I have, 27 transformers plugged into two extension cords 14 gauge..along with 5 splitters (I call them) which the transformers are plugged into. Thanks.. Bob
A you will need 2400 watts worth of LED's before you trip a 20 amp breaker. Ia=2400w/120v = 20 amps. You can not consider secondary current when determining primary over current protection, only watts
B power factor, applied power (VA), eddy currents, power factor or phase angle (one in the same) these are toys not real factorys, not applicable !.
I am a EE and in the electrical construction business for 25 years
Bill_R posted:A you will need 2400 watts worth of LED's before you trip a 20 amp breaker. Ia=2400w/120v = 20 amps. You can not consider secondary current when determining primary over current protection, only watts
B power factor, applied power (VA), eddy currents, power factor or phase angle (one in the same) these are toys not real factorys, not applicable !.
I am a EE and in the electrical construction business for 25 years
Thanks Bill ! So are you saying, I'm ok with what I have ? Bob
cabinet Bob posted:Bill_R posted:A you will need 2400 watts worth of LED's before you trip a 20 amp breaker. Ia=2400w/120v = 20 amps. You can not consider secondary current when determining primary over current protection, only watts
B power factor, applied power (VA), eddy currents, power factor or phase angle (one in the same) these are toys not real factorys, not applicable !.
I am a EE and in the electrical construction business for 25 years
Thanks Bill ! So are you saying, I'm ok with what I have ? Bob
Absolutely
Bill_R posted:cabinet Bob posted:Bill_R posted:A you will need 2400 watts worth of LED's before you trip a 20 amp breaker. Ia=2400w/120v = 20 amps. You can not consider secondary current when determining primary over current protection, only watts
B power factor, applied power (VA), eddy currents, power factor or phase angle (one in the same) these are toys not real factorys, not applicable !.
I am a EE and in the electrical construction business for 25 years
Thanks Bill ! So are you saying, I'm ok with what I have ? Bob
Absolutely
Bob
To put it into perspective
the park hotel draws 36 watts
36/2400 = 66.66
In other words you can run 66 park hotels on a 20amp 120volt circuit just before you would trip the breaker in your service panel. that's a lot of buildings. I don't suggest you do that but that's what the math says. once you have 60 plus Menards buildings on your layout that would be a good the time to think about a second circuit. Also note that most Menards buildings don't draw 36 watts so in theory you could go even higher building count. So don't lose any sleep I don't think your there yet.
Thanks for ALL you help Guys !!
Just keep plugging them in till it blows! Then back off one! Lol
mike g. posted:Just keep plugging them in till it blows! Then back off one! Lol
HaH that's funny, But it would actually work
Thanks MikeG, that is my understanding of EE
Brent
Why would anyone want to use so many individual transformers, instead of one big one?
Figure out the total wattage, buy a transformer that will supply that amount of power, plus some headroom, and do it the professional way.
Putting that many plug-in items into extension cords and splitters is just asking for trouble.