MTH 2019/2020 S Catalog

It would be nice, but don’t hang your hopes and dreams on this happening people....

Ben

With their standard lead time of 5 years, the catalogue should read "2024-25"

Brendan

banjoflyer posted:

Oh I don't know...maybe we can judge a book by it's cover!

I have that ATSF SW9 switcher #2421 from SHS.

ATSF SW9 1215 did exist and you can find pics of it on the net.

Mark

 

The covergirl on the MTH catalog is an NW2, as was the prototype 1215.  The primary spotting difference between an NW2 and SW9 for modelling purposes is the step in the hood before the cab verses a sloped hood.

Another difference is the size of the radiator.

NW2:

SW9:

Of course, there's a host of other less noticeable details that the railroads may have changed during their service lives.

Rusty

Literally at the end of my rope waiting for them... They told us two years ago they would have the switchers in the next catalog. Hopefully they have some new roads, more Fs, and cabooses. I would actually be reasonably satisfied with that. I'm so torn between S which fits my space much better, but is on life support at best or O which has far more available but takes up so much space and $. I suppose I might as well wait and see what's in the catalog. 

Jonathan

Not to hijack the thread, but I don’t really see a lot of savings in S vs O.  At least in the MTH/Lionel category.  

Ben

Other than there are less items to buy

Brendan

If MTH sells an F3, F7 or SW15 in Reading, I'm there.  A Consolidation steam in Reading and I'm there.

Doubt any of the above, although I did talk to MTH at both the Oaks Great American Train Show and York.  They assured me new product was coming.

Other club members who have either S Helper or MTH love it especially since you lock the method of control with a switch (DCC or DCS).

Still waiting for my BL2 in fantasy BNSF scheme.  Can't be long, now.

Brendan

Just another announcement after years......they will not get enough pre orders for any model. Same problems like other manufacturers like 3rd Rail, Atlas - modelrailroading, time is over !

NotInWI posted:

Jonathan

Not to hijack the thread, but I don’t really see a lot of savings in S vs O.  At least in the MTH/Lionel category.  

Ben

Comparing Hi-Rail S to 2R is a huge savings. Example, a loop to loop pike in S could use hidden 20-27" r return loops. In 2R O those would be 36-48"r loops. Big space savings. In my basement S Hi-rail gives me much more flexibility to design what I want from an operational perspective. What it doesn't have is available product that I want. I only have a little more than 34x9 to work with. Trying to design an operations based layout in larger scales for this space is proving very difficult. Especially when passenger operations are desired. 

I will be interested to see what they put in the catalog. I will eat my hat if there is actually new tooling in there as was mentioned above. We shall see. Even after we see a catalog we'll still have to hold our breath waiting to see if they actually deliver what they advertise. How many years late were the F units? Hopefully they have the factory situation straightened out this time.

Francine posted:

Doubt any of the above, although I did talk to MTH at both the Oaks Great American Train Show and York.  They assured me new product was coming.

 

jonnyspeed posted:

I will be interested to see what they put in the catalog. I will eat my hat if there is actually new tooling in there as was mentioned above. We shall see. Even after we see a catalog we'll still have to hold our breath waiting to see if they actually deliver what they advertise. How many years late were the F units? Hopefully they have the factory situation straightened out this time.

Keep breathing.  Everybody's doing it.   It comes highly recommended.

New product likely means former SHS products not previously re-released by MTH (the NW2 and others) not new tooling.

Pretty sure if MTH had a totally new-tooled-from-scratch S Scale product, it would be on the cover.

Rusty

10 days left...

I’ve sent MTH a couple of emails over the past few months and they haven’t responded.

Please be patient. The date of the catalogue is 2019-2020. It's due in August, 2020. Orders from the catalogue will ship to dealers after Christmas, 2021, maybe. The products will be the same as what S Helper Service offered, but with new paint schemes. In order to avoid confusion (and the cost incurred by SHS by including both scale and high-rail wheels), scale and high-rail products will have a single part number and come without wheels. Wheels of your choice can be ordered separately. They will be available for order from the 2025-2026 catalogue due in 2029 and will ship to dealers by 2030, maybe.

FYI... received this response from MTH:

Thank you for your S Gauge catalog inquiry.  The S Gauge catalog is expected to be released on-line next week, with the printed catalog to follow in September.  I have included you on the mailing list to receive a copy when it is released.

Sincerely,

Debbie

MTH Electric Trains

jonnyspeed posted:

The S Gauge catalog is expected to be released on-line next week, with the printed catalog to follow in September.

Debbie

MTH Electric Trains

"expected to be..."

Interesting they STILL can't seem to nail down a date certain.

Rusty

I can't make it to York next week, but if anyone here is going ...why not ask Mike in person.