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At a train show I was looking at the MTH 30-1089-1 single head per pole traffic signal.  I also looked at the 30-1089-2 two headed per pole traffic signal.

 

I read the directions for both types.  It appears the control box can handle just two LEDs per output.  For the single head that means two single headed pole pair can be connected to one output which are placed east/west, and second pair placed north/south.  However, only one two headed pole can be connected to a traffic box output, to not violate the two LED per output loading, and placing one pole north/south, the other pole oriented east/west. 

 

So if you wanted to place four two headed poles at an intersection, I believe you would need two 30-1089-2 units.

 

There does not appear to be a way to synchronize the lights so east/west and north/south units light simultaneously.    I do not have the signals, but assume there is the ubiquitous  555 timer that pulses a simple logic array or a binary counter that driving a diode array to the output.  Thus after a while the lights would get out of synch.  One traffic box would need to be a master, other a slave unit.  However I did notice that signals have just 14-20VAC input requirement (no DC voltage input), so boxes are perhaps using 60Hz to pulse counters, assuming both traffic boxes start up simultaneously.

 

Am I over thinking this?  Anyone have a four pole two headed intersection setup, and willing to clarify.

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Couple of ideas here, here's a video of a guy that wired them all together to one control box. As far as I know he hasn't reported any problems with them, but you could re-check his youtube channel. He may also be a member here, but I don't recall his user name? His youtube channel is BobotsTrains. Video here: Getting MTH Traffic Lights in Sync

 

I think Arduino would be another way to do this fairly easily. Using Arduino, I have made a stop light sequence for one set of lights (just 3 LED's, Red, Yellow, Green), but I think more could be added without a lot of trouble.

 

I also have a circuit schematic around here somewhere using 555 timers and a 74xxx counter chip of some kind. I don't remember all the details, but if you are interested I will try and find it and post it for you. I actually tried this one a couple years ago and it worked with four sets of 3 lights each. I found it on the internet, but I think I had to make some changes to get it to work, if I remember correctly.  

Thanks for the You Tube link.  I didn't see a reason you could not parallel another set of two headed poles, would just dim output. 

 

This was just more academic exercise than for real.  These signals would not work in my 1950s layout as I don't believe these pole types were prototypical at that time.  However the R/Y/G timing sequence is right as the 2-3 second delay between all red lights to clear intersection then one side going green wasn't implemented until much later than 1950s.

 

Oops gotta go, my whole house genset just kicked in for weekly testing.  Have to check oil levels and stuff.

Don't remember exactly, but I think this is the correct drawing of what I had working a year or two ago. The original schematic came from the internet somewhere, but I had to fiddle with it to get it to work properly as I remember, then we started looking for a house and moved. I would have to breadboard this again to say for sure it works, but I think it should be close if not the final working one I was messing with.

 

Anyway, here it is if you want to play around or try making one to fit your layout era.

 

Just a FYI, the x's at the wire crossings mean no connection at that point.

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The MTH traffic signals do not look like any around Chicago . Chicago traffic signals consist of a vertical pole and horizontal stem where the lights are attached.

 

There are no curved poles here. A better design can be found at  Leonard's Miniature traffic lights:     

 

http://www.miniature-traffic-lights.com/

 

He has controllers that attached one of the poles.

 

 

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