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I would like to confirm I set this up correctly and also ask a question.

Do I have to use an ITAD?

Can I just control it via handheld without the ITAD?

Here is how I hooked it up per Barry's book:

 

1) Attach the phone type cable to the TIU and AIU, by plugging it into the port on the TIU marked "AIU IN" and plug into the AIU via the port labeled "TIU IN".

2) Plug red wire from both the TIU and the Signal bridge into the same "IN" on the AIU ACC.

3) Plug the green wire from the Signal Bridge into the #1 of the ACC on the AIU.

4) Plug the black wire from the Signal bridge to the TIU ground.

 

Do a menu, ACC setup by adding ACC1 and name it SIG3, because according to the Signal Bridge instructions the signal closest to the end is Sig #3.

 

Unfortunately, even though the signal lights up in that position I cannot make it change.

The choices are On , Off, Pulse, and S/U.

I dont recall if there was another.

 

What did I do wrong?

About 10 years ago I recall doing this and controlling it via the handheld.

But, I know I had ITADS too.

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Without having a signal bridge in front of me, it sounds as if you are not wired correctly.

 

The signal bridge should have 3 wires for each pair of bulbs. One of these wires is a Common. Assuming you label the wires red bulb, green bulb and Common, putting voltage to red bulb and common should light the red bulb,  and putting voltage to green bulb and common should light the green bulb.

 

Assuming that you want the signal to be green by default, wire as follows:

  • Red bulb wire to AIU Acc port "2"
  • Green wire bulb to AIU Acc port "1"
  • Acc port IN to transformer Hot
  • Common wire to transformer Common.

The signal will come on green. When you activate it via the remote ON soft key, it will turn red. When you press the remote OFF soft key it will turn green again.

Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

Without having a signal bridge in front of me, it sounds as if you are not wired correctly.

 

The signal bridge should have 3 wires for each pair of bulbs. One of these wires is a Common. Assuming you label the wires red bulb, green bulb and Common, putting voltage to red bulb and common should light the red bulb,  and putting voltage to green bulb and common should light the green bulb.

 

Assuming that you want the signal to be green by default, wire as follows:

  • Red bulb wire to AIU Acc port "2"
  • Green wire bulb to AIU Acc port "1"
  • Acc port IN to transformer Hot
  • Common wire to transformer Common.

The signal will come on green. When you activate it via the remote ON soft key, it will turn red. When you press the remote OFF soft key it will turn green again.

Barry, there are only three wires, as this is the MTH Pennsy Signal bridge with the amber lights in a vertical or horizontal pattern.

The instructions say to attach the red wire to ACC Port In, and the green wire to ACC port 1.

Which I did.

The ACC port is shown to be empty.

I just looked at the instructions for the "#30-11030 O Scale Pennsy Signal Bridge" and it's pretty much as I said. Below, I changed the narrative to use the same wires names that the instructions use:

  • RED (R) wire to AIU ACC port "1"
  • GREEN (G) wire to AIU ACC port "2"
  • ACC port IN to transformer Hot
  • BLACK wire to transformer Common.

Instead of the ITAD recognizing that the track is occupied, you'll instead need to activate the AIU to change the lights.

 

However, the signal bridge will work best if you use an ITAD or other sensing device instead of the AIU.

I wonder if part of confusion comes from being 2 "red" wires.  Barry's bulleted instructions shown below.  The "red" wire from ACC port IN to transformer is shown in pink to distinguish it from the "red" wire from the signal accessory.

 

ogr aiu signal block

 

Edit: I see Barry swapped red and green in a later post; the diagram has been revised to show this later hookup.  As he says, this swaps which signal aspect (vertical-proceed or horizontal-stop) turns on when you activate the accessory with the AIU. 

 

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chipset,

 

I'm not sure why you would want to control what essentially is a block occupancy signal via handheld. The prototype told the approaching engineer that the track was either blocked or clear or that he could approach with caution (essentially).

 

If you want to use the bridge to indicate occupancy, here's a simple wiring diagram Dave Hikel gave me for wiring my two PRR Signal Bridges.  The diagram shows a different signal, but it works for the bridge.  The relay used is a Z-Stuff DZ-1008A.

 

 

DZ-1000wiringinstructionsforactivat

Hope this helps,

 

George

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