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I have neighbors whose deceased father was a fireman on the Illinois Central his whole career. As an avid rail fan he collected steam locomotives, signs, signals, paintings, and other railroad ephemera. His family had little use for the many locomotives that “littered” the entire house. To help them gain an appreciation for the collection I voluntered to take a dozen or so home, clean them up, photograph them, and make up a book with captions for the family. They saw a big difference between a dusty locomotive up on a dark shelf and a close-up studio-type photograph with a brief caption in a book. In appreciation they presented me with one model “taking up room” in the house. I was bowled over and was hesitant to accept this, but I could see I’d hurt their feelings if I didn’t. So I did. 

Taking it home, removing it from its railbed, cleaning it up, and examining it, I find I’m unable to identify its manufacturer or origin. There are no stampings, markings, or data plates anywhere on the model, other than the tender has a marked Kadee coupler. Can any of you experts help me in this? The model’s characteristics are: it’s O-Gauge, a 4-8-2 Mountain type, lettered as I.C.R.R #2411, heavy and probably entirely made of brass based on paint scrapes on the tender coupling, looks like it was professionally painted with an airbrush, is very highly detailed......VERY.....and includes all steam lines, hoses, bell and whistle cords, and a gold eagle on the headlamp. The cab is derailed with seats, gauges, throttle, and all items you’d expect to find there, and the interior is painted light green. The unusual facet of the model is that IT IS A NON-MOTORIZED NON-RUNNING SCALE DISPLAY MODEL!

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Hi MWB.......I had sent these photos via my iPhone but apparently they didn't go through. My laptop seems to send them just fine. I don't have any pics of the underside since the model is bolted and wired to the roadbed currently. I should have taken them when I had removed the model but didn't think of it. I can do this if it's necessary for I.D.-ing the model.

Another clue which may be helpful is...the two data plates on each side of the smoke box. The top one reads in two lines: LOCOMOTIVE SUPERHEATER CO.

SUPERHEATER PATENTED

The lower data plate reads in five lines:

AMERICAN

LOCOMOTIVE COMPANY

29406

SCHENECTADY WORKS

JUNE 1902

Thanks for looking into this for me. Cheers! --Bob

Last edited by BSteinIPMS

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It is what it says: an IC mountain, and looks very much like the prototype from the pic. The domes match up. Unfortunately no text with the pic, but at least you know it existed. You need a book on IC steam, which I don't have.

 

Found on the Net:

The Illinois Central Railroad purchased its first "Mountain" type locomotives from the American Locomotive Company in 1923. This first order consisted of fifteen (road numbers 2400 through 2414) locomotives which had 28 x 28 cylinders, 73.5" drivers and a 230 psi boiler pressure.

Simon

Last edited by Simon Winter

My guess the model was built by a professional model builder as a presentation piece.

According to Richard P. Bessette's "Rods Down and Dropped Fires" the model represents how the 2411 appeared in 1933/34 when it was displayed at the Chicago Century of Progress Fair.  The IC 2411 was built by Alco in 1923.   In later years the 2411 was rebuilt with a larger tender and given the IC's signature curved sand box.

Rusty

Im thinking the plate number 29406 may be its serial number in a numbered limited run of models, and 1902 may be 1982, or 1932(?), etc. a typo or bad stamped 8 or 3 looking like a zero. Or both that, and the super heater plate got used from another model just because of on hand availability. Model Power does statics, but Ive not seen O or near it. A pal gets a few catalogs from some high end modeling companies. They make all kinds, an highly accurate train wouldnt be out of the question and the runs are usally between 500 and 3000, from $200-$3000ish. I'll try to remember to ask for catalog names and if he recalls any engines offhand.

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