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I didn't want to de-rail another thread where a question was asked about a TPC.  I'm in the process of building my 2nd basement layout (the first was damaged by a flood and, in the reconstruction, I had to give up train space to the kids).  I'm wondering if the TPC, the block controller, or something else would be better than what I've planned below.  I want to operate conventional trains with my CAB-1 via powermasters and my TMCC engines via the command base.  I plan to operate accessories and sidings conventionally with hard-wired switches and controllers.

 

I have a multitude of Post War transformers available but will add diodes as recommended by so many.  That all said, here's my power plans.

 

My track and power plan includes the following:

1.  Two parallel L-shaped loops connected to each other at 2 points via switches so trains can move from to/from either loop but insulated/blocked from each other.  The "L" has a base of roughly 12' and height of 13'.  The outer loop will be powered by a 125W LW with a powermaster.  The inner loop will be powered by a 175W TW with a powermaster.  I assume I still have to make sure the transformers are in-phase even with the introduction of powermasters

 

2.  The inner loop has two storage sidings connected to it mostly with static displays like a passenger station.  I'm planning to isolate these sidings but power them when switched on from the inner loop's transformer since the power demands will be intermittent.  In the past, when I ran conventional and TMCC without powermasters,  I simply ran a "jumper" wire through a switch from the same transformer to control siding power and plan to do the same, just coming off the powermaster instead of the transformer directly with a jumper wire to the siding.  Is that OK?

 

3.  The inner loop also has a working yard with a multitude of post-war accessories, so I'm planning a separate 110W RW transformer and 3rd powermaster for this connected in phase with the TW.  Same question/concern there.  Can I control power each to siding in the yard separately with jumper wires off the "hot" terminal of the powermaster through a switch, one per siding? Or is that where the "Block Controller" becomes necessary?

 

4.  I'm also planning an elevated level around the "L" connected to nothing else.  No switches, no accessories, just a train-running loop using my other 125W LW and a 4th powermaster.

 

5.  One Command Base connected to an outer rail of one of the mainlines.

 

Thanks for any input.

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I don't understand the adding diodes comment. The post war transformers should have better circuit overload protection added as the old style breakers don't do much to protect new style engines.

 

1) Yes this will work and you must be sure the transformers are in phase.

2) Yes that is OK.

3) Yes the switch method will work but the block power controllers will do the same from the Cab1.

4) Yes this is OK also.

5) Yes as long as all the outside rail commons are tied together.

 

If you haven't purchased the powermasters yet the track power controllers will do everything the powermasters do plus give you control over whether you want to run conventional or command from the Cab1 but they are considerably more expensive. Another route is the ZW-C. This transformer has 4 powermasters built into it and can have up to 4 180 watt bricks hooked to it. You can pick these up used for about the same price as 4 new powermasters. They only come with 2 bricks but 2 more can be added later as needed. They were made with 2 135 watt bricks or 2 180 watt bricks but either model will use either brick or any combination.

Ron

Thanks RailfanRon - you've put my mind at ease.

 

The ZW-C is the best option.  My brother-in-law has one.  My problem is that I've got a plethora of postwar transformers and hate to buy another.

 

I've got 2 powermasters, so I'd only need 2 more for the whole layout, making that the cheaper option than a TPC400.  But, your idea makes me think about using the 2 powermasters on our Christmas tree carpet central layout and getting a TPC for the permanent basement layout.

 

The TPC400 controls, logically, 400W.  I'm planning to use 535W from 4 transformers (175W TW, 2 125W LW's, and 110 RW).  Am I correct in stating the TPC400 wouldn't quite do the job, or am I mixing up input and output?

I don't think mixing the transformers on the track power controller is a good idea. The manual says to hookup multiple Like transformers set to the same voltage. So wiring the 2 LWs together is possible. That would give you 250 watts on the output. That would have to go to a block power controller which would split the one output into 2 with the 250 watts going to either or split between them. I guess since you already have 2 powermasters the best route would be to look for 2 more and go with your original plan.

Ron 

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