Can anyone verify whether the Amfleet cars offered in the new catalog use the tooling from the long-ago issued versions that came in a set powered by the HHP-8, or are they based on MTH tooling? In my opinion, the original Lionels are more realistic in proportions than are the MTH cars. The (re)issuance of the very hard to find cab-control car is a welcome addition.
Thanks,
Joe S.
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Looks like MTH tooling. They measure 18-19 inches similar to the MTH Premier Amfleets. On MTH websites they list at Unit Measures:38" x 2 1/2" x 3 1/4" so Im not sure if thats the passenger car or box measurement.
Atlas purchased the MTH tooling. This looks like the same tooling that was used when the HHP8 was introduced, but I do not have specific knowledge. The former Metroliner cab cars would support that this is the same tooling that was previously used.
I was curious about this thought myself. If these Amfleet cars are scale length, that would warrant the higher prices...just a little.
The cab cars from almost a decade or so ago are EXTREMELY difficult to find in mine and fellow friends' experience, so seeing all these new ones being made should be a good thing.
I have the HHP8 Set with the Amtrak cars. The set came with 048 fasttrak curves. I also bought the MTH ones around the same time and attached photos of both side by side. Both cars measure around 18 1/2 inches. MTH has more details with the vestibule. Lionel's windows are smaller, but I liked the details inside. I use both cars and run them as two different trains. I am looking forward to seeing what improvement Lional and Atlas will make to their models.
Appears to be the former tooling- as stated above Atlas bought and has shown they'll be releasing the MTH premier Amfleets. As far as this tooling from Lionel goes...I actually like it BUT it doesn't match up well with the 19" Atlas/MTH Amfleets, the 21" Atlas O Horizons, 21" K-line Heritage cars, or the K-line Superliner 2s or the most recent Lionel heritage cars. Despite differences in length with the non-scale Atlas/MTH amfleets at the very least they can appear compatible in other dimensions with the rest of the aforementioned. These Lionel Amfleets look best when put in a consist which contains only these cars, the profile doesn't look right, otherwise. IMO.
Don't mean to impede on the thread-but were there any F40PH in phase V that were powered? Trying to decide which powered unit to choose.
@StevefromPA posted:Appears to be the former tooling- as stated above Atlas bought and has shown they'll be releasing the MTH premier Amfleets. As far as this tooling from Lionel goes...I actually like it BUT it doesn't match up well with the 19" Atlas/MTH Amfleets, the 21" Atlas O Horizons, 21" K-line Heritage cars, or the K-line Superliner 2s or the most recent Lionel heritage cars. Despite differences in length with the non-scale Atlas/MTH amfleets at the very least they can appear compatible in other dimensions with the rest of the aforementioned. These Lionel Amfleets look best when put in a consist which contains only these cars, the profile doesn't look right, otherwise. IMO.
Don't mean to impede on the thread-but were there any F40PH in phase V that were powered? Trying to decide which powered unit to choose.
I havent seen any
@StevefromPA posted:Don't mean to impede on the thread-but were there any F40PH in phase V that were powered? Trying to decide which powered unit to choose.
No, the Phase V and Veteran's F40s are fantasy schemes. The F40s only wore Phase V and the Veteran's scheme after being converted to NPCU/Cabbage units.
Thanks @Jdjones24 and @RJ I ! That impact should my purchasing decision so it’s greatly appreciated!!
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