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I borrowed my friend Lew's "Tony's Train Exchange" brass track-cleaning car.  It's Black Friday, so I'm taking down the black gook on the rails.  The car has a solid brass frame, a hollow brass tank on top, and two brass wipers slung between the trucks.  The forward wiper has channels that accept the cleaning fluid from the tank, and then these drizzle into the cloth wiper pads.  The rear wiper just wipes the track dry.

 

http://www.tonystrains.com/gallery/cmx/cmx-o-01.htm

 

I'm using a super-secret formula recommended to me by a well-known and respected name in the toy train field (under close supervision with a Fire Extinguisher at the ready).  Motive power is a Baby Mikado with a die-cast flatcar as an idler car in case of flare-ups.

 

The tracks are getting clean!

 

Jon 

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Do not use gasoline! Gasoline flashpoint is lower then lighter fluid, -30F versus 39F for lighter fluid. Lighter fluid and charcoal fluid are very similar they are formulated to light but not flash.
Gasoline is formulated to flash and explode this is how your car starts.
franktrain    
Originally Posted by Texas Pete:
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
 
Originally Posted by Texas Pete:

Might as well use gasoline.

 

Pete

Lighter fluid is more volatile than gasoline, with a lower flash point.  It's actually worse than using gasoline!

Between you and Policastro I'm learning a lot today!  Gracias.

 

Pete

Originally Posted by ajzend:

Before gasoline was used as a fuel it was considered a cleaning fluid.

Alan

And some petroleum products were even used as a treatment for head-lice at one time.  (That's why Mrs Benz had to buy some Ligroin at an apothecary when she famously 'borrowed' the car.

Are we competing for "The Darwin Award" here???

 

Are we casting for an episodic spot among Tru TV's 'dumbest'???

 

What would Sheldon Cooper say about this???  (Big Bang, indeed!)

 

What would your insurance agent say about this???

 

What would...

 

Oh never mind....have a blast.

 

......

 

 

Maybe the Mayans were right.

 

Time to put on my space suit and pack a bag.

 

 

First, though, a morning cup of joe.

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The forum safety meeting, November 25, 2012

My foggy head needs a quick explanation of "flash point". Lighter fluid, my favorite, lacquer thinner, White gas, camp stove fuel, etc. are all very good cleaners that leave little residue on the tracks.   Compromise is that they evaporate, (liquid to gas) quickly, and as a gas can flash over or ignite at the "flash point"????  I believe WD40 should be added to the list.  It also can ignite.   Just some thoughts. All these materials have an MSDS sheet.  Material Safety Data Sheet, that should be reviewed.  This information is available on line and should be available from the purchase source upon request.

 

There is additional concern about breathing vapors of these materials. Information also available on the MSDS Zippo lighter fluid.  This is a link to a (5) page information source. 

 

Be safe, life is too short.  IMO

Mike CT      

 

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The flash point of a volatile material is the lowest temperature at which it can vaporize to form an ignitable mixture in air. Measuring a flash point requires an ignition source. At the flash point, the vapor may cease to burn when the source of ignition is removed.

The flash point is not to be confused with the autoignition temperature, which does not require an ignition source, or the fire point, the temperature at which the vapor continues to burn after being ignited. Neither the flash point nor the fire point is dependent on the temperature of the ignition source, which is much higher.

The flash point is often used as a descriptive characteristic of liquid fuel, and it is also used to help characterize the fire hazards of liquids. “Flash point” refers to both flammable liquids and combustible liquids. There are various standards for defining each term. Liquids with a flash point less than 60.5 °C (140.9 °F) or 37.8 °C (100.0 °F)—depending upon the standard being applied—are considered flammable, while liquids with a flash point above those temperatures are considered combustible.[1]

 

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To make you all feel oh so much better, I've edited my original post. 

 

I will say this however: if given the choice between the compound I used which came recommended by a highly regarded name in the toy train industry, or the chemical compound recommended by one of the major manufacturers in the 1930's which turned out to be highly carcinogenic, or the "green" and "safe" choice of "Simply Green" which is apparently carcinogenic to Toy Train tracks, wheels, gears, and axles, then I stand by my choice.

 

It was used under direct supervision with proper ventilation. 

 

And unlike many of you here, I have been into year round Toy Trains since 1968 and have NEVER had any kind of injury.  And yes, I was aware that Xacto Knives were sharp, and that Lionel's "General" was plastic.

 

Jon 

Originally Posted by franktrain:
Do not use gasoline! Gasoline flashpoint is lower then lighter fluid, -30F versus 39F for lighter fluid. Lighter fluid and charcoal fluid are very similar they are formulated to light but not flash.
Gasoline is formulated to flash and explode this is how your car starts.

Thanks for the correction.  I didn't look it up, but made the assumption based on my experience with lighter fluid.  I know it's not hard to set it on fire!

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
Originally Posted by franktrain:
Do not use gasoline! Gasoline flashpoint is lower then lighter fluid, -30F versus 39F for lighter fluid. Lighter fluid and charcoal fluid are very similar they are formulated to light but not flash.
Gasoline is formulated to flash and explode this is how your car starts.

Thanks for the correction.  I didn't look it up, but made the assumption based on my experience with lighter fluid.  I know it's not hard to set it on fire!

Aw, man.  I learned a wrong thang.  Dang. 

 

Pete

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