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Any advice on a good prototypically correct example of a transition era stock (livestock) car?

 

It seems this particular type of freight car has been overlooked by the O scale modeling world.

 

The examples I have seen have postwar freight car features such as diagonal-panel roof and steel running boards.  However, the large majority of stock cars in use in the 1940s-1950s were rebuilt single-sheath boxcars with original flat or murphy roofs.

 

You would think that manufacturers that produce nice examples of single-sheath boxcars could be able to make tooling for similar stock cars.

 

Bob

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The ones that come to mind are the Atlas Trainman stock cars and the old Atlas-Roco stock cars. These had the steel roofs

 

MTH also did some in both Premier and Rail King, the latter appearing to be based on an earlier, smaller prototype. Can't remember the roof on the Rail King.

 

Lionel produced some a few years back that had four steers inside. I always thought the steers were a bit oversized, but they measure about 5 feet to the shoulder, so I think they're actually OK.

Bob,

Depending on the era to be modeled:

Few, of the manufacturers of 1:48 scale model trains either get all, or at least most of all, of the colors, detailing and markings correct.

 

Some, manufacturers, either put wrong detailing, leave off some detailing, or 'E'-All of the above!!!!!

Then, some release 'FANTASY' models, which sell, though wrong, because it looks cute and pretty!

 

It, is difficult, with the many manufacturers and their goods, to figure out which would be prototypically, or close to prototypically, correct and taking into consideration certain variables.

 

For the most part, I like 'Atlas 'O:'' 'Master Line Series' and/or 'Trainman,' because they do, or mostly do, replicate the prototype.

Good Luck,

Ralph

Rich Yoder brought in some excellent brass ATSF stock cars.  He may be doing a second run.

It would be nice if Atlas or one of the other "mass" manufacturers did the Santa Fe stockcars (Intermountain has them in N and HO) as the Santa Fe had by far the largest fleet of stock cars and they were commonly seen on eastern railroads.

 

Allan

We have five recently produced O scale stock cars to chose from.

 

Atlas Trainman, MTH and Weaver all make similarly sized 40 foot stock cars that would fit in the late 1940s to the end of stock car usage.  The Atlas and Weaver cars share roofs and ends with their respective post-war AAR and PS-1 box car models.  The MTH stock car has a Stanray diagonal panel roof and is unique in the MTH premier line.

 

Lionel makes the most detailed O scale stock car model on the market today.  It has USRA like dimensions, a wood roof, 4/4 dreadnought ends and would fit in from the late 1920s to the late 1960s.  It also has a diecast floor, a good feature for a type of car that usually traveled a the head end of a train.

 

The K-Line 763 stock car is also worth a look.  It is less detailed but is similar in overall dimensions to the Lionel stock car.  It has a Murphy rectangular panel roof and dreadnought ends.

 

I like the Lionel and K-Line stock cars because they are sized like 1920s and early 30s box cars and not later AAR or PS-1 box cars.

 

However, the large majority of stock cars in use in the 1940s-1950s were rebuilt single-sheath boxcars with original flat or murphy roofs.

I agree, a stock car with 5/5/5 or 7/8 Murphy ends would be great! 

 

My favorite prototype stock car was rebuilt from old box car components and had three piece ends of two different types and the uppermost end section had a lumber door.  How is that for odd and different?

My beef with the current scale stock car offerings is that I think they're all too modern. Yes, Atlas, Lionel, MTH and others make fine models--BUT. Most of their prototypes are of cars built (or converted) from about 1940 onwards.

 

I, for one, would like to see a kit for one of the older composite (wood and metal) stock cars built in the 1920's and 1930's. Those would not only be entirely appropriate for steam-era railroads, but many of those cars lingered on into the early second-generation diesel era, about the time when most stock car movements stopped anyway.

 

Lionel's 6656 may be very toy-like, but it resembles a widespread style of stock car that isn't available in scale from our vendors.

Originally Posted by PRR #1:

Any advice on a good prototypically correct example of a transition era stock (livestock) car?

 

It seems this particular type of freight car has been overlooked by the O scale modeling world.

 

The examples I have seen have postwar freight car features such as diagonal-panel roof and steel running boards.  However, the large majority of stock cars in use in the 1940s-1950s were rebuilt single-sheath boxcars with original flat or murphy roofs.

 

You would think that manufacturers that produce nice examples of single-sheath boxcars could be able to make tooling for similar stock cars.

 

Bob

 

I've been looking at some of the railfan "(fill in the blank) RR in Color" picture books, taken my focus off the locomotives, and have been surprised by what else I saw. A lot of the late 1930's stuff as well as the World War II-era equipment survived into the very early 1960's, howbeit often in new paint and lettering.

 

Some of those old cars still had wooden roof-walks well after World War II.

 

I agree, with Mister Lee.

Besides, the modern appearance, one other little detail that is missing are the 'Poling-Pockets' on some supposed older stock cars, which for the time period and builder, would have had them.

A well known modeler makes a beautiful car, but leaves off the 'Poling-Pockets,' when the car should have them, as per the prototype car.

Ralph

 

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