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I just found an unusual battery in a secondhand PS-2 engine. It's labeled as 9.6 volts instead of the usual 8.4, which would indicate that it has 8 cells instead of the usual 7. What makes it worth mentioning is that it has a label from a hobby shop calling it a battery for an MTH loco. The battery is a Powerex NIMH, 9.6v, 230 mAh.

 

The label/price tag reads:

Colonial Photo Hobby Inc.

Battery - 9v - Mth Loco

9v - Bplus

$14.95

 

I suppose BPLUS means the source was Batteries Plus.

 

The loco worked with the battery. I removed it and charged it up, and it did indeed deliver over 10 volts fully charged. I don't intend to use it in an MTH locomotive, but I am curious as to whether there would be any downside to doing so. 

 

While I was playing around with the Powerex battery, I charged up some 8.4 volt rechargeables I had lying around for comparison. An old white MTH battery charged to about 9.7 volts and still tested well over 9 volts a few days later. The best one was a cheap Thunderbolt brand NIMH cell from Harbor Freight; that one was rated at 200mAh and held over 9.5 volts several days later. A Radio Shack 8.4v NIHM cell was only rated at 165mAh and only charged up to around 8 volts. A couple of days later it was down around 7. That one went into the trash. And before anyone can bring it up, yes, I know that you have to test under load to get a truly correct reading on battery charge. Unfortunately, my load tester does everything but 9-volt rechargeables. The comparison test I did gives at least a rough idea of comparative battery performance; I don't claim it is definitive. 

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I am no electronic expert but there must be something on the PS2 board that controls the voltage from the battery since the board is only a 3 volt board.   I would think that 9 or 10 volts would be okay.  I have had the same thoughts seeing that batteries charge to about one volt more than they are rated at.  I also found the inexpensive batteries at Harbor Freight, I think it was only $4 and is working fine in one of my engines, a Premium P5a modified with the 5 volt boards. The battery is only a 'backup' to provide very short term power over weak electrical spots in the track and during shutdown.    

 

Maybe Dale can fill us in with more electronic 'details' on rechargeable batteries.

What state do you live in? I don't know of any Federal ban on putting NIMH cells in the trash, and I haven't seen a battery recycling bin since I moved back to the U.S. from Europe in the 90's. Next time I get to Radio Shack I'll ask if they have a recycler - I'd as soon recycle batteries if I don't have to go to some county facility that's located in the boonies and only open a few hours a week (which was the case when I lived in Fairfax County, VA). 
 
Originally Posted by ADCX Rob:
Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

That one went into the trash...

It's illegal to "trash" NiMH batteries now.  Return them to the recycle bins at the store.

Lots of confusing information in this post.  First, the 8.4 batteries were used in the PS-2 5V board Dave not the 3V boards.

 

NIMH don't last longer, they handle more charges better, and NiCd hold their charger longer unused.  The memory effect is overstated, it takes 1000 of cycles to the exact same point, not one recharge:-)

 

Batteries charged will go upto voltage higher then rated when unloaded.  Using a VM is not a load.

 

Take one of your older white batteries and charge it.  You may get 9V unloaded.  Then put a light bulb on it or a small motor like a fan motor and then measure voltage.  A dead or weak battery that measues 9V unloaded will immediately drop much lower when loaded (2 to 6V).  If it does it is dead.

 

A new fully charged battery when tested underload will have the voltage drop off in tenths of volts very slowly, and won't drop below 7V in a test unless the load is too large for the battery.  

 

If you open the older white MTH NiCd they are actually 2 cell batteries.  2 4.2V disk. 

 

If you read any battery, the say they should be disposed of properly.  Don't think there is anything healthy in any battery:-)  Many stores will recycle, you may have to ask though.  G

 

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