Old New York

The great pics continue!!!!

Peter

Fort Lee and Edgewater were very much a part of the New York railroad scene  A little further south of there was the New York Centrals Weehawken terminal.  It was also serviced by NJ Public Service trolleys that had to climb a huge trestle.  I worked in the buildings that were built in the location after the railroads were abandoned  The Hudson Bergen Light rail services the area now over ex Erie trackage

 

 

Though, as only a casual visitor and mostly unfamiliar with the geography, this thread has become one of my favorites. The photographs and commentary have been outstanding and highly informative. Thanks much to all that have contributed.

Hi Bob   The Binghamtom was a beautiful boat  I ate there a number of times when it was open    Here are some shots from your link of the interior

While in service

Here are the ones from restaurant days  One thing I didn't know was that there was seating in the engine room

 

 

Results of Hurricane's Sandy and Irene

 

 

 

Hello,

 

I found these pictures in an issue of Traction Heritage (Vol 4 No 2, Selections from 1907 Electric Railway Journal)

 

I think I want one of these.

 

 

Regards,

 

Calvin

Thanks, Calvin.

 

That's the first time I've ever seen the interior of an S motor electric - my favorite loco. Lot's of empty space!

 

Jim

GREAT PHOTOS of happier times!  Unfortunately also illustrating the capricious vagaries of fate! 

 

Everything progresses towards a state of entropy and decay! 

Jim,

 

Thanks for telling me what type of engine that is.

 

I was flipping through some Traction Model and Traction Heritage issues that my wife found at work. These pictures caught my attention.

Calvin,

 

The engines in the first photos are officially called the NYC S-1 electric. It still has the original single axle lead and trail trucks.

 

They found that it didn't track properly and soon substituted 4 wheel trucks on the front and rear. These are the engines that I used to watch in the south Bronx at the Mott Haven yards as a kid.

 

Lionel made models of two versions of this engine several years ago.

 

 

Jim

Would this pass for Sunnyside Yard?  

 

 

 

 

Peter

Art:

 

I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.

 

Bob

Wow. Never knew the s motors had such a spacious interior.  Very cool pics

This photo (circa about 1900) shows the view of Hunter’s Point in Long Island City from Sunnyside, Queens, which is just across from Greenpoint on the north side of the Newtown Creek.

Photo from the book, 300 Years of Long Island City; in memoriam of Vincent Seyfried, prolific historian and author.

 

 

Seeing that view of Hunters point from Sunnyside and the cow, recalls the early history of this land as dairy farms , What was not usable was marshland in the same area. At the turn of the century, these lands were largely undeveloped as shown in the photo . The PRR acquired these properties in preparation for the Sunnyside yard project which was a necessary adjunct to the Pennsylvania station project. In short, the land was too expensive in Manhattan for train storage and service and so Sunnyside came to be. The opening of the Quuensboro Bridge accelerated the urbanization of the area and it was just a few years later with the dual contracts that Flushing and Astoria Eles were constructed and placed into operation by the IRT and BMT . Thes companies operated the Elevated lines jointly until 1949. 

 

We have a few views of the area to relate it to modern times. 

 

The Track map presented in this image conveys the immenseness of the PRR and LIRR yard projects in Sunnyside and Hunters point as of 1956. 

 

 

 

 

These railcars and trains at Sunnyside might be standing here where the cow was grazing in the 1900 photo. 

 

 

 

 

 

LIRR S class Alco was working over near Yard A. The Snshine Biscuits sign and building was a landmark. The building us still there but the sign is not. The LIRR Alcos were originally ordered by the PRR for the LIRR before the PRR placed the LIRR in Bankruptcy in 1949. These locos were delivered in the Brunswick Green with Dulux lettering ala PRR . The LIRR painted the pilots white. They wore these colors for a decade or so before being repainted into Goodfellow colors. 

 

 

 

here is an  aerial view of the area . You can see the Flushing Line exiting the Hunters Point Ave station and curving to the top of the photo heading towards Queensboro Plaza. Just East of there, the Montauk LIRR branch curves onto the Main line leading to the Sunnyside yard and to the East on the LIRR

 

 

Ok Back on the Ground so to speak, we can see the yards looking east from the Flushing Line just as it turns north.

 

 

 

Still on the Flushing El, not quite one block north of the prior photo with a Nanhattan bound no.7 coming at us. The Tunnels under the east river were originally known as the Steinway tunnels. They were used by the Steinway trolleys before being bought for the IRT service. Low Vs once ran on these tracks into the late 1940s. 

 

 

 

 

I think that cow would not recognize the place judging by these photos. Enjoy the visit.

Just came across this pic.....not sure it's been here before.....

 

 

I think I see:

The EL and ajacent yard by the Polo Grounds.

The New York Central Hudson Division ( and maybe the area of the Putnam Division yard)

The Jerome Ave EL/Subway #4

The New York Central Harlem Division  with what looks like the car yard near Cardinal Hayes HS.

 

Peter

 

 

Here's another neat one.....taken in 1961.....look at the New York Titans logo!

Peter

 

Let's not forget one of the greatest locomotive stunts in history.

Moving the Brighton Beach Hotel in 1888!  They knew how to deal with global warming.

Wow. Never knew of that before. How cool is that

Hello Peter (Putnam)

 

Thats a nice photo taken from the Bronx shoreline to the Polo Grounds Stadium.  Also note that it is also showing the ex-IRT 9th Avenue EL remnant "Polo Ground Shuttle" in the foreground....

 

However - PHOTO DATE OF 1961 IS WRONG -- the shuttle line closed in August 1958 and was removed by mid 1959 on the Manhattan Side. I would date that photo between late 1958 and earlier. I rode that shuttle many times and took photos of and on it about one month after it closed and abandoned- in August 1958. 

 

Here are a few of the hundred or so photos I have in my Polo Ground Shuttle collection file.

 

And I am enjoying this long photos thread and the various commentaries !

 

Regards - Joe F