Old New York

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrMP15.htm  LIRR MP15 roster #150-172 Built 03-1977

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...stone/whitestone.htm  Whitestone Branch
Main tracks electrified: 10/22/1912Freight sidings electrified: 1927-28
Entire branch abandoned from just west of Flushing Creek drawbridge to Whitestone Landing: 2/19/1932 

I'd date the picture as c. 03/1977+

This site reports delivery in 11/76

http://www.thedieselshop.us/LIRR.HTML

This info is incorrect as delivery in 11/76 not possible as EMD indicates:

LIRR #150-172 Class: E-15, Builder: GM EMD Order #766043 23 units, Serial Numbers: #766043-1 to 23, Model: MP15-AC,  HP: 1,500, Trucks:  2-2  Effort:  65,750  Weight: 263,000  Date: 03/04/1977  30 years in service.

I came across a pair of interesting photos from Art Huneke's site  . They show the crossing of the Montauk Branch at Flushing ave. The photos are taken from Mount Olivet tower about 1948 .  The crossing is at grade and the BQT Flushing Ave Trolley tracks can be seen The trolleys were still in operation with service to Park Row over the Brooklyn Bridge,so it was an active rail crossing as well. The industrial Building is one of several used by Welbilt for the manufactre of stoves and ovens and other appliances. Just to the right but not seen in the photo was Flushing ave crossing of the Bushwick Branch tracks. They went through the building . In the 1950s, the grade crossings were eliminated when Flushing ave was depressed in this area.

The steam engine and caboose are heading West towards Maspeth and LongIsland City. It is one of LIRRs H10s consolidations. The Hack actually is a PRR N6b cabin so yes you can run your MTH PRR N6b with your LIRR H10s.The markings on the cabin are very minimal. Interesting find.

The LIRR has a yard next to the Flatbush ave terminal in Brooklyn. It was known as the Carlton Ave Yard and used for train layup. Today its under the Barclay Center arena.

A friend posted a photo of the yard back in the early 1950s. LIRR equipment was being repainted into the TICHY colors of grey and light grey. There are a few tuscan red straglers in the yard , TICHY was a trustee of the then bankrupt LIRR after the PRR had put the railroad into Bankruptcy. A new image was being created for the LIRR in those days. I road these as a youngster to the Rockaways over the Jamaica Bay trestle before the line was closed and sold to the Transit Authority. The MP-54s would go one to serve the LIRR to about 1972 -73 last operating to the Flatbush Ave. line because the platforms and tracl curvature would not allow the longer P72s and New M-1s to negotiate the terminal. The non powered equivalent , the P-54s lasted even longer into the mid 70s . I rode these on the Port Jefferson line. During the winter, one would buy a cup of coffee and the New York Times at the station before train time. When the train with P-54s rolled in and you got on the train , you put the Times on the floor so your feet would not freeze and you held the coffee in your hands to keep warm for the ride to Jamaica, Changing to M-1s at Jamaica was like another world. The floors in the M-1s had red carpets and these cars were nice and warm. I didnt miss the P-54s.

In the photo which follows notice the El structure with the Meat Reefers on it. At this time, this track was being used to serve meat packers in the downtown Brooklyn area. The El however was the original LIRR connection to the 5th ave m Elevated which allowed LIRR trains to travel to the Sands Street depot at the foot of the Brooklyn Bridge. Passengers could then transfer to Brooklyn El trains going over the Brooklyn Bridge to Park Row in Manhattan.

Here's another shot immediate to the east:

For more info it's on a page devoted to this topic: http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...latbush/flatbush.htm

Until the changes of 1904 - 1906 Brooklyn was served by the Carlton Avenue
freight yard which was situated between Carlton avenue and Sixth Avenue.

Carlton Avenue yard was extended east to Vanderbilt Avenue and west nearly to Fifth Avenue.   At Vanderbilt Avenue a new connection was made with the tracks in the tunnel at "VD" interlocking.   The yard became known as " VD Yard" or "Vanderbilt Avenue Yard". From Art Huneke's website: http://www.arrts-arrchives.com/vdyd.html

Tichy info: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/tichy/tichy.htm

Thanks for all these interesting posts. Neat project, yes? Model an entire railroad's rolling stock - all 4 items! I assume the spark arrestor was to protect the more spark-sensitive military items?

This is a real history lesson  amazing

Old Grand Central

Before the flat iron building   My favorite railroads ticket office

Cooper square

Columbus Circle construction

Polo Grounds

And some New York Central

What a great way to start the week.  This is my all time favorite thread.  Thank you, Ben.

Richie

Nothing can beat old photos like these. I was on the West Side Hwy. yesterday looking up at the G.W.B., big difference.   

Very cool photos - building NYC

Paul

Look at this pic again   That's the GW bridge being built in the background

Love the new pics, Ben!

Peter

Great photos.

Hey Ben, I see the G.W.B. in the background under const. My wife's Grandfather was working on the bridge at the time of this photo.

Just got this pic   How cool is this  Coney Island Yard   Nope its really called Culver Yard

Ben,

I think you need to develop a history book of NYC Rail roading - subway, freight and trolley's

Blue Bird to City HAll

from somewhere in Middle Village