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So I was running trains for about an hour the other night and the internal breaker on my postwar ZW opened. I am wondering if I exceeded the capacity, or if the breaker is bad. Nothing changed during the hour long running session. Here is what I had as the load:

 

- MTH PS1 Santa Fe f3 ABA set. Only one A unit is powered with two can motors plus the PS1 electronics. Both A units have a few lights in them.

- Six MTH passenger cars illuminated by two bulbs each.

- Lionel modern Berkshire with a can motor, headlight, and smoke (ha) unit.

- One lighted caboose.

 

I have a multimeter, but it's an older model and can't measure AC current.

 

I find it hard to believe I exceeded the ZWs specs and am more inclined to believe the breaker is bad.

 

Thoughts?

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Many times the breakers do go bad with age.  A key would be if the transformer got warm at all.  If you're really running at the limit of around 15 amps for an extended period, the case will be fairly warm.  Not hot mind you, but plenty warm.

 

An automotive cartridge breaker is a good replacement and fits right in, I use 15A ones for the ZW and a 10A one for the KW.

Not only does it work, but when checked against my Fluke bench meter, it was better than 2% on current and voltage readings.  I use it regularly, and I'm very happy with it.

 

FWIW, I did buy a different meter from HF for the temperature feature, I had to exchange it to get a working one.

 

My experience with them is typically with this kind of item, that once you get a working one, they are pretty decent.

So I bought a 15A auto-breaker and put it in. Works like a charm. Had the trains going about four hours today and it didn't trip. Got plenty warm though.

 

It does work as I did a short to test it. I know that's really not what should be done but I don't have the parts to simulate the necessary load.

 

As for the meter I looked at Radio Shack and Home Depot. Every one I found that read AC amps was at least $70. There's a Harbor Freight up in Glen Burnie (about 30 miles from me). I'll have to check that out when I'm up that way some time.

 

Thanks again for the advice.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

You can buy a perfectly serviceable clamp-on meter from Harbor Freight for $12, I've used one her for a year.  When checked against my bench Fluke meter, it's within 2% measurement accuracy, more than sufficient for model train layouts.  There's no reason to spend $100 for a meter unless you have a more demanding application for it.

or a lot of money

John is right. I have the same clamp on meter and it has worked fine for a couple of years and it's accuracy is similar to John's when tested for voltage against my Fluke meter. I have no meters that measure current but the values seem to be good. I also have several of the free ones Harbor Freight was giving away and they also work fine in the train room.

Ron

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