Paper Factory Drawings

Alan,

paper production is not that much different today than it was years ago, except for how the building is constructed (masonry vs. covered steel frame). The major production units are the same. An online search of a paper mill will give you the basic elements of a plant. They are usually located near a water source, such as a river. Takes a lot of water to make paper.

inbound: pulp log bulkhead cars, tank cars of chemistry, outbound boxcars of paper rolls and sheet goods.

Hi Al,

What's the "involved" part that you referred to?  Is it the complexity of the model itself or the act of creating O scale plans from HO?  I ask because I've got an unbuilt HO scale laser cut diner that I was just wondering about using as a pattern for an O scale version -- someday when my schedule frees up, that is.  Times two (x2) is just the kind of math that I can handle :-].

That question asked, I believe the S.D. Warren Paper company in Maine is still around.  They are on a river as usual and might have some buildings and settings to suggest modeling ideas -- I believe the company's been around since at least the turn of the last century. So there might be some add-ons and other architectural and visual variety to inspire you if you can find pics on the web. From an operations standpoint, it isn't always logs going in -- there's rags and recycled pulp, too. That could be fun.

Best,

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Tomlinson Run Railroad,

I was making reference to the complexity of all the different parts of the paper factory. There's so many different shapes of the Kraft Mill alone,I'd need to be in a real relaxed mood to transfer the measurements from HO over to O,and when I get that relaxed I'm usually snoring.  

Then there's the shipping Mill & another mill building. Yes the "involved" I mentioned is the time needed to do a good job of converting the mill to O scale. I almost have to build the model to make all the correct measurements to get my measurements close to right.

AL Hummel

Alan Hummel posted:

I almost have to build the model to make all the correct measurements to get my measurements close to right.

That's exactly what I have done - build the HO model and while building it in parallel then build the O scale model directly.  Works just fine -- btw, try using 1.8125 as a multiplication factor,

MWB:

Thanks for the info. Any suggestions on materials to use? I considered Styrene with wood reinforcing beams.

Thanks,

Al Hummel

When you get this done, you will need to put smoke generators in the stacks, and then use "scented" smoke fluid, (sulphuric acid "rotten eggs"), with enough to fill the whole basement, as was the situation of the paper plant I was familair with.

Alan Hummel posted:

MWB:

Thanks for the info. Any suggestions on materials to use? I considered Styrene with wood reinforcing beams.

Thanks,

Al Hummel

I tend to use all wood for wood buildings, but many prefer styrene for their efforts.....

Actually, do you have any pictures of the HO kit or a link to pictures of it???   Walthers full name and/or kit source so I can go take a look at it?

Last scratchbuild structure project I did was based on an HO FOS kit but I worked from just the photo of what the kit was supposed to build.  All wood board by board.....

MWB,

The HO kit I have is the Superior Paper Factory. I was looking at the Kraft mill when I made this post. There's also a paper loading building & another kit, the Boiler house in this series.

How much area do you think this will take up in O scale?

 Thank you,

Al Hummel

Al,

I built a Hewlitt Unloader using a Walthers kit as a guide about a year ago. I just doubled the part sizes as you had said initially. You can use the kit layout as your starting point and change things as you go. For me, this way of doing things took more time. I do not like following written directions when I construct something.

Alan Graziano

Alan Hummel posted:

The HO kit I have is the Superior Paper Factory. I was looking at the Kraft mill when I made this post. There's also a paper loading building & another kit, the Boiler house in this series.

How much area do you think this will take up in O scale?

In N scale:

Main mill: 12½" x 7" x 5½" (31.8 x 17.8 x 14.1cm)
Kraft mill: 7-1/16" x 4-3/4" x 10¼" (17.9 x 12.1 x 25.9cm)

Multiply everything by 3 (1/160 for N) to get a scaled up footprint.  I think the answer is BIG!

Al,

Nice to meet another "Alan" that spells their name the right way!  

I'm counting on selling the HO buildings so I'm trying to figure the building dimensions out,without building them,so that get's REAL HAIRY. I almost have to lay the pieces out,but I don't want to cut them from the sprues.

The Walthers' buildings are really detailed even though I'm not that familiar with paper factories. A series was done years back on a paper factory using  Walthers' Lakeville Warehouse kits,as well as other kits,to model a modern paper mill. This consisted of 1 wall from a kit to conserve space. Boxcars were spotted there unloading after market pulp that was then processed for the final paper which was transferred to the paper loading dock in another building. There were 2 loading sidings there. A Pikestuff 2 stall engine house was used to bring in chemicals & recycled materials were shipped out, outside that building. Some type of gas was brought in on another siding. That was ok in the day,but soon after the Superior paper kit was brought out by  Walthers.

I have the other kits too,so I could be less detailed in the buildings & read the instructions in the Walthers' kits & try to "wing" a paper mill.

Not sure which way I'm going,but I'm not bringing in woodchips,but rather the after market pulp to make use of my boxcars.

There's a Boiler house,Kraft mill & shipping facility for loading out the finished product of paper. Walthers doesn't make much mention of tank car unloading which from what I've learned about paper mills,is a serious breach of researching.

Al Hummel