so i really need to get a wheel press to put new wheels on some of my trains? is there anything else or another way that me be helpful?
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The next best bet is a vise. But you cannot do all types of wheels with one and the results are rarely satisfactory.
Gandy
would i be better off having a service tech do it for me?
Steam locomotive wheels have to have the crank pins on the two wheels at 90 degrees to each other rotated in the proper direction. If this does not happen the side rods will not go on. The Lionel wheel press uses wheel cups to do this properly. These are the tricky wheels to install. The diesel and electric wheels just need to be pressed on square to the axle. These are much easier to install.
Definitely have someone with a press and the expertise do it for you!
Before I had a press, I used to mount wheels by squeezing them in a vise. The results were poor for me. I use a press.
Older Lionel service manual documentation advised repairmen to make their own cups, and use a metal lathe to mount the wheels.
For a while someone was marketing a fixture to go in a vise. I don't recall reading anything about anyone actually using them.
When setting up an arbor press to work on trains, the cost of the press is only the beginning. The original Lionel 15 piece tool set is limited in what it can do. There are many additional tools available today.
Same goes for the cups. The Lionel wheel cup set only does a few different engines. There are many other cups available today. Most only do one type of wheel.
I use a floor standing drill press or you can use a bench mounted drill press. Just take a large size drill bit and put it in upside down for your press device. It works great for me and is easier to control than a vise.
Jim Lawson
Tinplate Art has the best advice for you, IMO. I tried it on a Lionel steamer once, and bent the axle. Ended up with a tech doing it. I have been successful with the simpler Marx engines though.
I use a floor standing drill press or you can use a bench mounted drill press. Just take a large size drill bit and put it in upside down for your press device. It works great for me and is easier to control than a vise.
Jim Lawson
I purchased an Arbor Press from Harbor Freight about 20 years ago. This works very well.
When you press tin-plate wheels on, do not apply pressure to the wheel rim-the spokes will bend (guess how I found this out?).
Use a couple of sockets from a socket wrench set against the center of both wheels so that the force is applied to the hub and not the rim.
I use my vice with very good success. Have been a auto and Diesel mechanic for years in my youth. I am thinking of looking into the harbor freight press to make it a bit easier but my vice jaws can swivel 360 degrees in any direction so that helps . Plus it is already paid for . lol. I use small sockets from my socket set to press just the inner hub . Have done the wheels on my # 10 and the cast iron wheels on both of my # 38's with no problems.
I picked up this drill vise and it works well on pressing wheels on, I like it because you can use it on you bench and turn it around checking for alignment. I also have a arbor press if I need more effort to set the wheel.
franktrain