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I tried for the 1st time taking apart and cleaning a PW E Unit.  I followed a you tube video I found and it went easier than I expected.  However it did not fix the problem.

 

The problem is that the engine does not operate (acts like its in neutral) when the e unit is switched to the forward only position (the light bulb in the engine does light up).  Also when the e unit is switched to the Fwd/Rev setting, the train only goes forward.  By that I mean the e unit cycles through forward, neutral, reverse, neutral, forward, etc when the direction button is pressed.  But the reverse position acts like a neutral setting.  Again the light bulb lights up on all the e unit cycle positions.

 

When I took the e unit apart, there was some burn marks on the drum and some plastic was slightly melted near the burn marks.  One of the fingers appeared to have the tip melted off and other fingers were bent.  I polished the drum up and cleaned and straightened the contact fingers as best I could.

 

I did put my voltage meter across some of the contacts while the e unit was cycled to the reverse position and found there is a voltage reading between both the yellow/green and blue/green contacts at the engine.  That does not seem right to me but not exactly sure how that is supposed to be.  This engine has 3 contacts going to the engine.  Blue is on the left, yellow is on the right, and green is in the center and behind the other two.

 

I suspect that the e unit is still causing the problems and that I will need to replace the finger contacts and possibly the drum, but would like to get feedback as to if there is anything else I should be checking for the given info above.  I would also like to understand better what wires should be supplying power to the motor in what e unit positions as I'm a bit confused from looking at a wire diagram for this engine.

 

Tim 

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The color of the wires from eunit to the motor make no difference.   Green always goes to the field tab on the middle of the motor and the blue and yellow wire go to the brushes.  Doesn't matter right or left.  I suspect you will have to replace the  contact fingerss and the drum.  Sounds like the drum might be warped.  Order from the Train Tender, he has everything you need and is quick...

 

Marty

Ok that was my thinking too, but I was concerned that I may have to replace the whole e unit as opposed to a rebuild because of the fact that the train doesn't go when switched to the forward only e unit setting.  The e unit lever does have some rust on it.  Not sure if not moving in forward only switch setting could also be related to bad contact fingers/drum also or not.  I get how the e unit works in general, but don't know detailed enough info to troubleshoot to that level.

Originally Posted by Tim H:

The e unit lever does have some rust on it.  Not sure if not moving in forward only switch setting could also be related to bad contact fingers/drum also or not.

The lever would just be to prevent the e-unit from cycling normally, so I doubt bad contact fingers and drum are the result of keeping the unit locked out.

 

-John

From your description, the contacts and drum need replacement. Just looking at them and seeing their condition is enough to make that decision. Bad fingers and drum can cause any number of problems, whereas the e-unit lever only locks the e-unit into one position, or allows it to cycle, but would not cause the e-unit to not cycle the loco properly and miss a position.

The e-unit lever does not have a 'forward only' setting; the lever will lock the e-unit in any position you choose, whether it be forward, neutral or reverse.

 

Larry

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