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I received my new legacy Santa fe gp9 powered and dummy today and some of my thoughts are below,

 

Pros,

paint, detail, sounds, smooth runner, smoke, no engineer in dummy

 

Cons

 

The dummy is a real dummy, no lights, no nothing but it does look good.

 

Some thoughts,

 

This is my first gp9 and the sound set is fantastic although the cab chatter is nothing special but I don't use it anyway. 

 

The smoke ramps up as you increase the rpm's

 

The horn sounds close to the real thing if my memory is correct, if not it does sound great

 

The gap between the trucks and the body is about as close as it can get without having a attached pilot.

 

In summary I give this engine a A+, IMO it can't get no better, well maybe it can but this is a great set of engines. 

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Thank you for this review.  It sounds like a good loco and one I would like to have.

 

Would you mind reporting back in, say, a month?  The reason I ask is that your review sounds just like mine for the two powered U30C Legacy models I bought -- my most recent Legacy diesels.  I loved them.  But durability was a problem.  Bothdied within about 10 hours of running. 

 

One I got fixed - bad control card), the other I ruined trying to fix it* I did fix the problem but could not get the body back on (off the chassis, it was warped - the chassis had been keeping it straight, and it broke when I tried to force it straight to reattach). 

 

Just interested in the durability you see . . .

Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

For the amount of $$ Lionel Charges on dummy units, I can't see why they can't give us the lights and roller pick-ups in the dummy units! Really! Throw us a small bone at least!

Excellent idea. My Atlas O C&O GP9 dummy has lights, and even switches underneath to control WHICH lights you want ON.

prrhorseshoecurve,

You are correct.

What, would it take to beef-up the dummy unit, for the outrageously high price, of it?!!!!!

The same with a MPC GP-7/9 dummy unit, which was blank.

I installed lamps, pick-up rollers and a bake-lite micro switch, for the lamps, on the bottom of the dummy!

The switch sits high enough and clears the railway.

RJL

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Originally Posted by TM Terry:

I hate to sound clue-less, but why would I want a dummy locomotive to have lights?

 

I would not buy one without lights. Good for the train backing-up, a dummy on a siding waiting, to light up dark areas of the yard or siding, to add realism - in short, why not? There is nothing quite so mystical as the headlight of an approaching engine off in the distance!

Originally Posted by graz:
a loco on the interior of a large consist would normally be dark (I believe). Those on the ends would need lights and couplers. I feel that a dumb dummy is fine but the price should be much lower.

True, but there are cases for placing the dummy in the lead, thus the OPTION for lights would sure be nice. I have a pair of those Atlas Trainman high nose big ALCO "alligator" units, both of which are powered. The Atlas Trainman diesels do NOT have cab figures, which is fine, since they are lower priced powered units. Thus, I place an Atlas O (master series) dummy C&O GP9 in the lead, set the appropriate lighting switches underneath, and have a great looking C&O consist.

 

It is also advisable to place a dummy unit in the lead position, if you are pulling pretty heavy/long trains (obviously not with "F" units, however).

My experience tells me it increases at each level. Also using the efx/brake slider will increase smoke volume on steam engines. I love setting brake to almost full on and throttle at full to get tons of smoke and great sounds on steamers. I tend to decrease RPM on diesels after reaching speed which cuts the smoke a bit and makes a more realistic sound in my opinion. Legacy engines ofifer so many ways to individualize smoke and sound. 

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