I have a NYC SD80MAC (6-18297) that is new to me. It was on a shelf but I was told it ran at some point. I decided to do some routine maintenance and upgrade the smoke unit, so I removed the shell. I soon discovered a few chaff wires associated with the rear pick-up rollers. I repaired the wires before applying power and running it. Once on the track, the engine responded to all the TMCC commands. Both engines turned in unison. However, when I lifted the engine slightly off the track, I noticed that I was only getting power from the front pick-ups. If the front of the engine was slightly raised, their was no power to the engine. Since, I worked on the rear pick-ups, I naturally rechecked my work. The rear pick-ups seem to be wired correctly. I checked continuity from the pick-up roller to the mini Molex connector plugged in to the motherboard (J6) and both the ground (black wire) and hot (red wire) showed continuity.(I touched a wheel to check the continuity of the black wire) Further, I applied 14 VAC to the pick-up and wheel and saw that voltage at the Molex connector. (But...the engine did not respond once I put the Molex connector back into the motherboard. It would appear to me, I have voltage up to the motherboard but it is not getting distributed. Is it possible that their is a problem with the motherboard? What other troubleshooting techniques should I employ to narrow this problem down and rule out my repair as a culprit.
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Yes. Unplug both molex power inputs from pickup roller and test to see if they have continuity between ground to ground and 3rd Rail to 3rd Rail. G
I suspect if you look under the motherboard you'll find the trace between the two pickups has been cooked. If you have a derailment that puts one roller on the outside rail, it puts the full current through the motherboard trace, it's the weakest link and goes. K-Line was infamous for this issue.
If it is the trace on the motherboard, you can just solder a jumper wire between the two Molex connectors, problem solved.
A bit more troubleshooting information...
All black wires (ground) show continuity when I check them. So whether I touch the Molex connector or motherboard pin to a frame ground...I have continuity. If I go from the black wire position of the J6 pin to J1 pin, on the mother board I have continuity. (From the wiring schematic I have, it would appear the front pick ups are plugged into J1 (this is a number labeled on the motherboard in white...is that correct and the other Molex connector to it side, goes to the DCDR-5 board?) I found it reversed and when I did a continuity check for the Molex connector to the roller pickups. I confirmed which Molex connector was which and put them in accordingly to the wiring schematic I have.
If I apply track power to the front pickup and touch the rear truck frame the engine starts up. The same is true, if I apply power to the front pickup and touch the ground lead to the truck frame, the engine starts up.
As for continuity between the red pins, I have none. If I touch the red wire position on J1 (front truck) and the red position on the J6 (rear truck) of the motherboard, their is no continuity. I went as far as checking the red position on the J2 pin (the outer most position, which I believe is the for the DCDR-5 board) still no continuity.
So, I tend to believe Gunrunnerjohn is on to something. I will try a jumper between the two red wires coming off the front and rear pickups. Can you confirm my suspicions about the pin locations? That being J1 is for the front pickups and J2 goes to the DCRD-5?