Over on a thread running about Marx tooling, somebody asked about GE 70 ton industrial diesels, specifically about the
Marx version. I have in front of me a RY flyer on GE 70T engines, emphatically identified as two rail. On the reverse of
that flyer are offered ventilated box cars (these in brass and quoted as $425 up), However, no price is cited for the 70T's.
I seem to think that RY once offered something in three rail, possible brass cars, but not sure?
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To my knowledge, RY Models only offered one small locomotive as a 3-Rail "option" (44 Ton center cab?). Everything Rich has made for the last many years now, has been for 2-Rail only.
Rich did offer 3R 44 Tonner's several years ago.
Despite being fantastic models, they did not sell well and had to sell off the remaining inventory he had at a loss. AFAIK, he has no plans to ever offer anything in 3R again.
Thanks. I thought it might have been that 44 Tonner. Rich told me face to face, that he will not make anything in 3-Rail again, as he simply can't sell enough to even cove his costs. How many 3-Rail 027 Train folks are REALLY inclined to purchase a $425 to $495 limited production box car, that isn't set-up with Hi-Rail wheels?
How many 2-railers are interested in $400 freight cars? Seems to me that 3-RS folks are getting far more demanding than their 2-rail counterparts.
How many 2-railers are interested in $400 freight cars?
Well, it would seem more than a few that I know have more than a passing sampling of both Kohs and Yoder freight cars (a few have a nice set of Overland specialty cars that they run...), and last I checked, Rich has no trouble selling out of freight cars. Given that there's an Overland Poultry Palace car just about to break $400 and will probably end a good bit higher on eBay, I'd say that there's an adequate number to support a business.
Seems to me that 3-RS folks are getting far more demanding than their 2-rail counterparts.
But could not bring themselves to buy a 44 ton diesel.........
Not buying your premise here at all.
I purchased a couple 44 tonner shells from RY last winter. I had been looking for 3R version, but he didn't have any built up ones left. They are on my list of things to do this winter.
I bought the 44 tonner in 3 rail and I like it. I also did TMCC. I also purchased a couple of Rich's cars and converted them to 3 rail. He does nice stuff. I wish that I could have worked out a deal for that three car naval gun set.
Norm
Very nice little diesel model. How does it operate through turnouts, especially long turnouts, with such a short distance between pick-up rollers?
Yes, I should have remembered the 44 tonner. I thought about buying it, but did not
want to get away from steam....since it was an actual scale one, I was sorely tempted.
Norm, somebody said RY trucks, which are available for separate sale, not cheap but
probably nice, are difficult to convert to three rail: did you replace the trucks or
just the wheel sets (I hope, I hope)? (no question his rolling stock looks good,
and I am really sorry he did not do the trick now being done, demand reservations
and a deposit) Our loss, and odd, since I have seen other posts clamoring for a scale 44T. Not that I'd be putting together a train of $400 brass cars, but
every now and then he has a unique and appealing one. This flyer shows ACL
and C&O watermelon cars....ACL, sure, but C&O? Prototype photos are there.
Very nice little diesel model. How does it operate through turnouts, especially long turnouts, with such a short distance between pick-up rollers?
Here is a video.
I called Atlas and asked what they would recommend and they sent me everything. Being a 3 railer,I don't care if the trucks,couplers and wheelsets are perfect. Nobody would notice anyway. I have just a couple of brass cars: 3 from RY and 2 from 3rd Rail that I got for a good price at auction.
Norm
I know that there are at least three Yoder 44-Ton in 3-Rail and in NYO&W; two belong to Wurlitzer. The other belongs to another member of the CNY NRHS.
I purchased a RY 44 tonner that sat for four years until I was able to install PS3. I think the fact that they had no electronics was a major factor in why sales were poor in the 3 rail arena. The model itself is great and the gearing is also great.
I love mine!
Dave
Video:
I don't pay any attention to electronics so don't understand it, except beyond my
hoping it doesn't foul up my running conventionally, and so haven't even read about
it closely in the HO mag I also get. But don't many HO locos come with a plug, where you can put in electronics from several sources, and it is all compatible? The O
stuff sounds like you need to be a "build your own computer" type, to be able to upgrade and keep stuff running. Too bad that universal compatibility did not exist for Yoder. Curiously, has anybody swapped Lionel electronics into an MTH loco, so
you had one system and could run all your roster on that one, or the reverse? Is
there some change-in board to do that?
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