Bill

Out of curiosity, what catalog were the Pullman cars in?  I see the NH and GN but not the Pullman.

Thanks

American Flyer 2020 along with the other three Road named Heavyweight cars.

Thanks, Bill!  I guess I didn't get that catalog.  :-)

That is likely because the 2020 AF Catalog is online only.

Here is the link to the catalog.

http://catalogs.lionel.com/2020/AF/

Does the Magellan car  have the Huge Speakers on the OBS deck?

@William Jack posted:

Does the Magellan car  have the Hugh Speakers on the OBS deck?

Nope.  It's the standard Lionel/Flyer heavyweight observation.

Rusty

I actually asked Ryan Kunkle about the speakers.  He told me no speakers.  Why - because before Reagan used the car there weren't any speakers.  I checked photos and that is correct.  He said there would be modifications in the car to make it as accurate as possible, but they did not do the artwork for the catalog as they didn't know exactly what the modifications were.

I am excited to get it.   

@Roundhouse Bill posted:

I actually asked Ryan Kunkle about the speakers.  He told me no speakers.  Why - because before Reagan used the car there weren't any speakers.  I checked photos and that is correct.  He said there would be modifications in the car to make it as accurate as possible, but they did not do the artwork for the catalog as they didn't know exactly what the modifications were.

I am excited to get it.   

There would have to be quite a few modifications to make it accurate.  The roof is an arch roof vs clerestory, windows are in different locations on the Lionel observation, to say nothing of the kitchen door.

And speakers were used before Regan.  Here's a picture of President Truman on the car with speakers.

There's enough photo's of the Ferd on the web to determine the changes needed.   In other words: It's remove trucks, replace carbody.

And before I hear the discordant  "You Scale Guys..."  I considered ordering the Ferd and a pair of AM scale trucks for conversion, but have had more important things to deal with this past year.

Rusty

I am sure Lionel will not retool the whole thing Rusty.  So a true SCALE guy might not like it, but if they change it the best they can. like painting the armored roof silver, I will be very satisfied.  I have already made the Ferd out of an old Gilbert observation car.  And yes it has speakers. 

I dunno...  Every photo I Google shows the Ferd with a black roof.

Frankly, I wasn't expecting Lionel to make any significant changes to the basic observation for the Ferd. However, without significant changes to the carbody, the statement of "As accurate as possible" is somewhat hollow.

I found it interesting that they chose the Ferdinand Magellan name for the car.  In actuality, they could produce the car as is and it wouldn't bother me.

Although, a set of removable speakers (possibly held on magnetically) could have been a nice addition.

BTW: Here's a photo of the Ferd, FDR and speakers...

Rusty

Rusty,

That looks more like Truman in your picture than FDR

Gunny

@gunny posted:

Rusty,

That looks more like Truman in your picture than FDR

Definitely Harry S Truman Gunny.

@FlyerRich posted:

Definitely Harry S Truman Gunny.

What else can I say but "Ooops."

Rusty

Here's a photo with FDR on the campaign trail. Also, below is an accurate model of the Ferdinand Magellan. Regrettably, the stock Lionel-AF heavyweight observation car is sort of off the mark, particularly concerning the roof.

Enjoy!

Bob

Who made that car? What Scale?

@Roundhouse Bill posted:

Who made that car? What Scale?

HO.

Overland Models.

Brass.

$$$$

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

HO.

Overland Models.

Brass.

$$$$

Rusty

Correct. I believe that OMI did a similar one in O scale as well.

Bob

OMI did one in brass Beautiful detail several members have posted pictures of ones they own and one was offered on yheB/S forum. The catalog price was $1450.00

Wow!!!

That make Charles Ro's price for the Flyonel version a $65 look great.  Even if its not perfect I am glad I ordered it.

@Bob Bubeck posted:

Correct. I believe that OMI did a similar one in O scale as well.

Bob

You are correct Bob. Overland did make the Ferdinand Magellan in O Scale (2-rail & 3-rail).