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The RC Polar Express seems to be having some trouble with an S turn.It is definitely having trouble and I ASSUME it is the S turn because it it the only place it hangs up. I cant have more floor space, so I only see 1 alternate track design. Before I go buy more track, I was hoping for ideas. The PE runs on the inner siding only. It has to be there because the outside track is reserved for a train with a wider min diameter requirement. It travels clockwise. As it makes the turn toward the lower wye is is in a definite S and the wheels slip. I have replaced the traction tires, to no avail. I have 2 solutions. 

1) Run counter clockwise. The curve near the wye is O54. The turn going into the U, there is a O72 easement, so traveling in the other direction might be easier. I don't like this soln, but if it is the only option, so be it.

2) Redo the curve as seen in the bottom picture. The difference being O72 easements. 

 

Would solution 2 help? Thanks

 

 

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Last edited by Marty R
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Looks to me like you have straight sections between "S" curves - if that in fact is the area mentioned - just below the green dot (post?).

You are quite correct - AVOID "S" curves - usually a 10" straight will do the trick for all but large locos - and a 5" straight for switchers, subway cars, and PCs is adequate.

Glenn

How many cars are you pulling? It sounds like you need to shorten the train or get a bigger loco. You could try lubing the car axle bearings but do so sparingly so as to not get oil on the track.

 

Thats a small loco with an o-27 minimum radius requirement, theres really nothing about your layout it shouldn't negotiate. Your turns are all plenty big.

 

The drag of the cars increases in turns, too many cars can overcome the relatively light weight of that smaller loco causing it to lose traction.

Last edited by RickO

I don't think changing the layout will help, frankly.

 

You're just pushing the limits of that little locomotive. It wasn't designed to pull 8 or 9 cars. It was designed to pull 3 or 4. It lacks tractive effort.

 

Weight should help but that puts stress on the motor that it may not like.

 

I would get some 1oz fishing sinkers, start with four, maybe, and add or subtract as necessary. Harbor freight has stick on "slab" style lead weights that would work too.

Matt, it doesn't sound like the engine can't pull the load. It sounds like the cars come off the track somewhere in the consist. Doesn't this tend to happen when heavier cars are behind lighter cars in long consists? Shouldn't the lighter cars be behind the heavier cars or the weight evened out? I've seen posts suggesting that all cars should really weight the same. I don't know, so I'm throwing out the questions.

 

In any case, I agree, I don't think it's a matter of the curve being an "S" curve (or reverse curve) because the straight sections look to be more than long enough to avoid problems caused by 2 opposing curves being too close together.

Rich wrote:

Just a point of education to the terms used in railroading. In the real railroad business, a curve like this is called a "reverse curve" not an "S-turn" or "S-curve."

 

Just figured I would throw that in here for educational purposes only.

 

Now if he could do the same with "CROSSING" and "CROSSOVER"

we'd be truly educated!

ENJOY

Glenn

Last edited by Glenn

Marty;I'm convinced Dave has the reason for the problem and you should have the answer.

Weight on drivers gives Traction. More weight does give more traction so Load er Up  

This is not the first thread about the Set loco not puling all the add-ons.

I believe they did sell an improved but not too expensive 1225 for that reason.

You might want to keep an eye out for one to replace the engine you have once it dies. Then again, it may not die for a very long time.

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