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Greetings,

For the past 2 years, I have been active on the  3-rail O gauge Train Forum getting excellent advice creating a temporary layout and revitalizing vintage Lionel rolling stock and accessories. That's in my comfort zone and has been fun.  It's all down now and I am on to the permanent layout, beginning with backdrops...and scenery is definitely out of my comfort zone, so I'm seeking advice on this forum.  My questions focus on which products to use for specific scenery, how to create transitions among scenes, and how to account for backdrops on different levels.   Here's a bit of background with photos to provide some context.

The first 2 photos show the temporary layout.  There is a double track mainline around the room and single main line on lower level with several spurs.   A lumber scene will be on the far right with evergreens in background, rocket launcher in back right corner with barren backdrop, distant mountains with Mt Hood (I live in Oregon) on back wall, Christmas snow scene in left corner, and waterfall on left wall (either Multnomah Falls from Columbia River Gorge or Taughannock Falls from Ithaca, NY our prior home).  All three corners will have mountains, so no need for backdrops for lower level.  Intermediate areas with multiple levels between corners will show background, so this presents a bit of a quandary. 

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Next photos show current status.  Everything is down and stored.  I used several resources for backdrops and mounted and painted Masonite (with a little help from granddaughter!), then added some clouds using stencils.  [You will note some patch work on the right wall.  I forgot the backdrop for the lower level will show, so had to add some Masonite here. Not concerned with the unfinished look, b/c I intend to cover with backdrop.] 

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Here's my questions:

1.  Any suggestions for backdrop scenery? I am leaning towards photos from resources such as Trackside Scenery and LARC Products.  I mounted a trial winter scene from LARC Products on the back left corner and I was impressed with the look for even this rough try. 

2.  Are the clouds sufficient?  I sense that "less is more" for backdrops, so wonder if I should stop with what I have.

3.  How do I create transitions between different scenes, such as (from right to left) timber area, rocket launching area, distant mountains, snow scene, then waterfalls? 

4.  How do I accommodate the backdrop for multiple levels in the intermediate areas between corner mountains?

Any advice and suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks!

Michael

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Hi and thanks for the reply.  I was wondering if I would get any replies after 70 views and no posts. You focused on the main concern I have at this point: how to manage transitions between different scenes.  I went to the website you cited and it looks very promising for custom transitions.  I'll contact Dave and see if we can resolve this.

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Michael

Dave is a good guy to customize backdrops to your needs.  He is a real good guy to listen to your ideas and come up with samples for you to choose from.  Here are some ideas for you to consider...

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This is one that he customized for me.  The train yard adds depth to the scene.

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Can't say this is finished, but, you get the idea.  I used an LED strip to light the scene underneath.

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Two more ideas:  The top is just photo paper backed by a blue poster board.  Many of these buildings are available online.  The bottom is a very old cutout of a town scene that still needs a lot of work.

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This is my overhead layout.  Dave customized 70 feet of backdrop to be 7 1/2 inches high.  You can see city scenes on the left and hills and woods on the right.  At the bar, or the card table, the poker group loves watching the trains go around.

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Miller Engineering signs can add a lot.  On the overhead, they are simply mounted to a panel above the bar, and two more along the track that are not shown.  On the table layout, they go great with buildings.

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Sorry for the old, lousy pic, but, you get the idea.

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An idea for corners.  Hardly prototypical, but it's better for me to keep the functionality of the rooms, so I have to adapt the layout accordingly.  People tend to focus on the 8 trains running at the same time, on four levels, rather than how unrealistic it is.  In this room, they can turn around, without taking a step, and get a cold beer out of the fridge.  You can see the background behind the LCP controllers.  It is HO, and gives a nice distance to the scene.

Hope this helps you...

Jerry

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Well, I just reached a milestone: the backdrops are up!  Spent several weeks planning and getting great information from several resources, such as print and on line, including this forum, then practicing, and learning all new skills.  I want to give a big shout out to Bill Brown from LARC Products and Joey Ricard from Trackside Scenery for their expert services in customizing and creating specific backdrops for my unique layout: transitions to different seasons, insertion of specific elements (Mt Hood, stream, road, etc.), and colors.  Made lots of minor and few major errors (forgot to account for 3 different levels), but all is good.  The panoramic shot shows the fall scene on left with eventual waterfall, moving to winter scene, then Mt Hood, 3rd level for 175 Rocket Launcher, then timber area on far right. 

Very pleased with results, especially given I have never done any of this before.  Need to accommodate the multiple levels, then on to benchwork!

Happy New Year!!

Michael

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Well, I just reached a milestone: the backdrops are up!  Spent several weeks planning and getting great information from several resources, such as print and on line, including this forum, then practicing, and learning all new skills.  I want to give a big shout out to Bill Brown from LARC Products and Joey Ricard from Trackside Scenery for their expert services in customizing and creating specific backdrops for my unique layout: transitions to different seasons, insertion of specific elements (Mt Hood, stream, road, etc.), and colors.  Made lots of minor and few major errors (forgot to account for 3 different levels), but all is good.  The panoramic shot shows the fall scene on left with eventual waterfall, moving to winter scene, then Mt Hood, 3rd level for 175 Rocket Launcher, then timber area on far right. 

Very pleased with results, especially given I have never done any of this before.  Need to accommodate the multiple levels, then on to benchwork!

Happy New Year!!

Michael

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WOW!!! It looks fantastic. 

Mike, not really hard to mount. I had my wife review the installation video on the LARC Products website with me so that we knew what to expect.  I had reviewed it and others like it to get as much background before the big event. 

One thing we noticed was that even though I used a level, the large panels (there were 5 large ones and two small ones) sometimes seemed to shift upwards or downwards a bit as we moved along.  If we noticed some shift, we did the best we could to adjust. We did make sure the butt edges between panels were aligned properly and that was more important.  I would also add that I mounted these temporarily several times and made adjustments, for instance in some of the sky/cloud background, where the opening for the light switch and main water valve for the house would land, as well as the transition edges between two of the panels (fall to winter scene).

One other tip.  I used products from two sources: one was photographic paper and the other was vinyl, both with adhesive backing. The blue painter's tape occasionally tore the edge on the paper product. We had to be very careful in pulling the tape away.  This was one time I would have preferred inexpensive tape...like the stuff you get at Harbor Freight tools. 

Hope this helps.

Michael

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