Smoke Fluid Funnel

I normally use the little funnel that came with the locomotive, and drip the fluid into this from a Mega-Steam dropper. I also have a syringe with a blunt needle that came with a Seuthe smoke unit. This works very well too.

Sorry if this sounds silly, but are you making sure that the smoke unit is turned off before you add fluid? That's one of the most common reasons for splashes.

Megasteam sells a needlepoint bottle dispenser for smoke that works well.  Only downside is that it takes more drops to fill the smoke cavity.  However, you aren't spilling the fluid all over the place.  Good luck!

 

I also use the Mega -steam Squirter , I believe this is what was shown on the Lionel smoke unit video's also. Quick and easy.

Hi Jpos.  If you have a local dealer nearby, they should be able to help you get some funnels. The Lionel part number is 610-1209-204 and the list price is $1.

 

 

Your local dealer should be able to help with the Mega-Steam needle applicator bottles too.

 

Any of the needlepoint bottles (megasteam, etc...) work well. I dont know what the droplet conversion is vs. a medicine dropper, but its probably about 3 to 1. I just squeeze the bottle and count "thousand one, thousand two" and it seems to be good for a while.

It wouldnt be too hard to figure out the exact conversion rate to the smaller needlepoint drops if you wanted to, but most smoke units hold far more than the recommended amount before they're truly flooded. 

That is why I do NOT use the smoke units in any of my diesels. In fact, a number of my diesels have had the smoke units either removed or disabled. I found it is to much of a PITA to fill them, fluid tends to go everywhere EXCEPT into the smoke unit. Also, I had an incident where the glue holding the "channel" inside the shell cracked pouring fluid all over the boards causing electronic as well as cosmetic (leaked to the outside damaging the paint) damage. 

I prefer a funnel over a needle. The trouble with the needle-topped bottle is that you can't see how many drops are going into the unit. I have one of the Lionel mini-funnels that came with a Legacy locomotive and a couple of little blue ones I got from the housewares department at a big Ace Hardware. The ones from Ace were a bit big for some of the diesels; I shaved down the pointy end with an X-acto knife and now they work fine.

An Ear funnel works good too. I use them for my steamers. You can buy one or ask your doctor if you can have one the next time you visit.

 

 

 

I have the Megasteam needle points for my diesels and they work great! What's nice about the ear funnel is you can get the fluid in a little deeper closer to the wick  material.

Hello all. I think I've solved my problem by using an empty LaBelle needle tipped oil bottle. I simply unscrew the top cap that hold's the needle, put in the recommended amount of smoke drops from my large bottle and replace the cap. With a small LED flashlight, I look down thru the top of the exhaust pipe or stack, locate the top of the smoke machine's manifold, and insert the needle into it. Once it's in place, I slowly squeeze the bottle until all the liquid is gone out of the bottle. Work's every time. Thought I'd throw out my two cents worth. Bill 

Small metal smoke fluid funnels can be purchased from any American Flyer parts vendor. Back in the day Gilbert included one in each smoking steam loco set. 

 

Gandy

Basement Bill's suggestion is the one that I use and the only one that I've found to universally work for every loco I have- prefill the needlepoint with the right dosage and inject it entirely into the batting. Extra steps but well worth the effort. The regular eye droppers and plastic funnels fail to get the fluid directly into the batting and tis results in it creeping everywhere. Yes, certain locos have built in funnels so you can't get directly to the batting but The needlepoint still handles this scenario better than the other options.

I cut the end off of the capsule of smoke fluid that comes with some engines. The capped end makes a perfect funnel.

I use a old American Flyer funnel. There available from flyer parts dealers. You can go into the S gauge forum and ask if someone wants to sell one. 

I thought that diesels aren't supposed to smoke! Only steam engines do this. May be diesels with worn-out motors smoke.

mega-steam dispenser;

 

The device used might depend on the engine.  I only have one smoking MTH diesel (A GP20) and for it:

* the Mega Steam needle won't fit

* I have tried 3 funnels - all way too big

 

* I landed up buying a packet of hypodermic needles (In PA they are now available without a prescription).  I put 20 drops from my fluid dispenser into a small cup and sucked it up into the needle.  I marked the spot on the body of the needle.  Now, all that I do is stick my hypo into the fluid container and withdraw the plunger til the fluid reaches the mark.

 

- walt

My Lionel CC2 came with a small funnel to fill up the whistle and blow down smoke unit but I ended up using it only a few times as the whistle and blow down smoke unit ended up crapping out maybe 3 months after I bought it. This was my 2nd replacement and it runs decently so I decided to just keep it and not have the extra effects.

Mathew

Pier I imports sells oil fired candles

(my wifie loves shopping there).

anyway, they also sell the oil for the candles

and little plastic funnels for filling the candles,

or your smoke units. I bought about 6 of them.

they were perfect.

http://www.pier1.com/Mini-Plas...7463,default,pd.html

 

here they are!!! chck out your local Pier I...........

If any of you are friendly with your local Dentist, he has some kind of injector device. I think it's called a 'jett'(?). It's a fine tipped syringe looking, that you would have to load up with fluid. Ask him for one and tell him what you are using it for; I'm sure he would be delighted, many Dentist are train collectors. They love the detail aspects of our trains.

http://www.createforless.com/Darice+Funnel+Mini+1.5+Clear+2pc/pid159189.aspx?utm_source=shopDT&utm_medium=cse

 

here's an additional source

OH!!!!!!!!! just thought of something!!!!!!!

another side note, when using those plastic

funnels, dont shove them all the way into the smoke unit

so it hits any elements inside. The plastic melts.

Found that out by experience, pushing it into a postwar

smoke unit.

http://www.aliexpress.com/whol...plastic-funnels.html

 

Here's the mother load...........take your pick!

 

Those little "jetts" that Dentists have are used for

caulking guns and filling root canals, brings back bad

memories.

Guys,

 

I use lionel part number 610-115-5203 that came with my H16-44. works very well and just ordered a couple of more..