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We'll I have dismantled my small "test" layout and I'm working on the design of a new, 11' X 24', around the wall, layout for my basement.  I've been reading lots of posts here and have learned a lot- including NOT having a duck under.  However, I do want to have multiple levels, not just an elevated line.  I'm planning on 24" shelves on the long walls of the basement and something around 4-6 feet wide on the short ends (and yes, I'm allowing for access to both ends from behind those areas). 

 

So my question is... how much of a gap should there be in between the shelves to allow for lighting (I've got some thin under counter lights from a kitchen remodel) and scenery?  Too little and it will impede viewing.  Too much and the bottom shelf has to go lower to the ground and/or the upper shelf gets too high to see.  I recently visited a large 2-rail layout here in Kansas City which used multiple levels that started almost at the ground which created a very long main line but didn't seem to work all that well for scenery.  I'm thinking that something between 18-24 inches might work best but would like to know if anyone else out there has done this.  One more thing, I'm not planning on having any trains go from one level to the other.

 

Thanks for the help and Happy New Year!

 

Bob

 

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I'm sure some folks will come through with specific recommendations, but another method is to do some test setups yourself to try out different heights and widths of tables and shelves. Shim up a table to the height you are considering for the main layout, then rig shelves above that with boxes and blocking or whatever is handy. Set up some sections of track with cars on them on the different levels. Then you can see for yourself what looks best for your own height, standing and sitting. As a general rule, upper levels should be narrower than lower sections for better viewing and access.

Bob, on my around-the-wall layout I placed my upper levels starting against the wall or a few inches from it.  They are basically double track elevated lines that I will add scenery to.  For the most part, my middle level runs parallel to the upper level, but about 4"-6" in front of the upper level. 

The main level, where most of the scenery will go is 36" above the floor and 2' to 8' deep.  The middle level is 10" above the main level, the upper level is 20" above the main.  I chose those heights to be able to add mountain portals and still have some room for scenery (and my hand in case I need to reach in) above the portals.  Each of the upper levels are 8" wide.

Here are some examples of finalized parts of my continuously evolving track plan.  Bottom (main) level depth here is 4':

Atlas Bridges

 

Here the upper levels cross over and under by using wider curves on the middle level. Space between levels will have hills with trees and foliage, rocks and/or mountain cuts or whatever I think of at the time I do it  :

 

West End

 

West Side MTH Bridges

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  • Atlas Bridges
  • West End
  • West Side MTH Bridges

I think that it isn't so much the space between the levels, but rather how high you need each level to be.  For instance, you don't want the have the lowest level be to low, otherwise is is difficult to maintain, and doesn't look as realistic.  The upper deck can't be too high, otherwise it will also be too hard to maintain (and see).  So I recommend having the upper level below eye level, and the lower level at or above waist level.

 

If that is a little to narrow between levels, then make hte upper level shallower, so the lower level extends outward beyond the upper deck.  This also aids in lighting because the lower deck is not hidden in the shadows and doesn't require as much light.

 

just an idea.

I agree with what James wrote above. I once saw a really great double decker 2 rail layout but the upper level was above (at least) my eye level. I had to strain on my tippy toes to see the upper level good. I'm 5'10" by the way. It would be even worse for someone shorter but of course much better for someone taller. In hindsight I would have placed the upper level a little lower. However, if the owner was happy with it where it was then that's fine too.

 

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