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Time is coming soon when my DZ-2500s will have to be wired in to the layout. At the machine end, 8 wires must be managed (see pic--it's not pretty). These go to 14VAC power and a DCS AIU for control purposes. As with so many things in this best of all possible worlds, I am trying to minimize the effort required. Gunrunnerjohn put me wise to the virtues of 8-wire CAT5 or CAT6 wiring. But the machine still must be connected to the wire bundle.

Some searching produced the connector setup shown in the pic. The idea is that the "loose wire end" will mount next to said switch machine and the rj-45 socket will hang underneath the table from whence a CAT5 wire will carry the necessary electrons (or did they decide it was the "holes" that moved?)  back and forth.

Simple question (look at pix please...): Has anyone seen anything smaller and/or better, preferably but not necessarily cheaper (these cost $8.50 each)?

All help appreciated.

Don Merz

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Utilitech Quick Wire Connectors

Item #49497Model #GTB-412-UT
  • 12 pole modular construction can be cut down to desired number of poles

  • Recessed screws and tubular contacts provide added safety and help prevent short circuits

  • Nickel-plated brass contacts

    Try these.  They can be cut to as many units you desire and mount under the layout.. Cost is $13.35 for 12 units at Lowes,

Bruce

One caveat about bundling all the DZ2500 wires into one cable - if you are going to use the serial data of the DZ2500 (the bluee wire) AND if you are going to use a switched sine wave transformer (like the ZW-L), be aware that the switching power spikes can couple (a.k.a. cross talk) into the serial data wire - because of the close proximity of the two wires in the bundle, interfering with proper control via the serial data wire. I know this from experience on my layout!!!

I was lazy, I used the CSM2 Breakout board.  It also gives me the connections for the non-derailing and remote switch button.

Another bonus of the breakout board, the green push to lock connector makes it easy to swap out a DZ-2500 switch machine.  Trust me, you're likely to do this a few times!

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Well, I am using the 180 watt lionel power bricks so no problems with a switched transformer. The Utilitech method is what I want to avoid--I want to route one wire bundle one time, not six wires for each switch machine. I do use all that Utilitech stuff to connect accessories and structure lights, etc.  GRJ, to use the DCS AIUs, Barry's book says to not implement the non-derailing feature and also says that a separate manual turnout switch control is verboten. So the CSM2 has no home here, unless I have mis-understood what Barry said.

Don

Are you turning off the TMCC function of the DZ-2500?  Otherwise, the AIU would be in parallel with the manual switch, that shouldn't be a problem.  However, you don't know which position they're in in that case, so  suspect you have to turn off TMCC and use them like a manual switch machine.  I'm not sure what the issue with non-derailing is when in DCS mode.

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