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Here is a version of the Lionel 1952 catalog layout, in Lionel FasTrack (created with AnyRail).  I have not yet found an image from the catalog of the 1952 layout that I can post, but here is my FasTrack version.

Using AnyRail, I put together a first try at this layout with O31 FasTrack.  It doesn't match perfectly with the original because the diameters and turnouts are different.  There is one O60 turnout at the top, otherwise O31.  AnyRail file attached.

 

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Using the turnouts, trains can do a twice-around route, as well as the two independent loops.

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Smoothing curves where possible:

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One reverse-curve is in the lower yard track that crosses, its an O60 turnout into short straights, and O48 curves with straights in between, so its not bad at all for O36 equipment.

The other reverse curve is feeding the loco service track, all O36 curves.  I might look at that again.

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I was able to put a 1 3/4" section between the two turnouts.

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The original layout was designed in the classic "Toy Train" style, assuming all-around access or folks climbing on the train table.   If pushed into a corner, access will be a problem, but this is just small enough to work on a large rolling table to pull out for access.

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Thanks Ken - that was my original post but it was removed as being copyrighted elsewhere. You might want to delete my original too.

I downloaded it as a paid subscriber of the other magazine but I shouldn't have posted it.

I should have just traced it and posted the sketch.

Are any of your track plans in fastrack?

@Ken-Oscale posted:

Redoing the layout in O36 FasTrack (three O60 turnouts) changes the character of the layout.  It now seems a different layout (not bad in any way, and arguably better in a number of ways) from the original.

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Thanks - I like this plan in fastrack. I may not put in all of the center siding as I want some room for a small town. I do like the center crossover idea.

Great job!

@Ken-Oscale posted:

Sean, here is my vision of a town center, with a road and parking.

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That works - what I may do is hold off on the center section until phase two or phase three.

Phase one will be to get the tables done. I want to build them in three pieces for easy moving in a few years. Most scenery will get done after we move.

Thanks for your help on this - much appreciated!

@Sean007 posted:

That works - what I may do is hold off on the center section until phase two or phase three.

Phase one will be to get the tables done. I want to build them in three pieces for easy moving in a few years. Most scenery will get done after we move.

Thanks for your help on this - much appreciated!

Sounds good !  You are very welcome!

I think this layout plan is now good enough to be someone's O-Gauge Empire, in 6.5' by 11.5':

  • Minimum curves and turnouts are FasTrack O36 - an upgrade from O31
  • Two separate loops for train running
  • Supports two operators running trains
  • Cross-overs between the two loops
  • A passing track
  • The inside oval has a figure-eight inside, which creates two return loops for reversing trains
  • Using the connecting tracks, trains can run a "twice-around" route
  • There is a small 3-track yard
  • Connection with another RR for interchanging cars in and out, and perhaps staging a train on the long siding
  • Curves are widened when possible
  • The two reverse-curves have been "conditioned", so they will be fine for O36 equipment.  These are both on spurs, there are no reverse curves on the mainlines.
  • A number of industries for switching
  • A town center, with stores, station, animated freight station, cattle pen and milk can unloader
  • A steam locomotive service track
  • Just small enough to go on a rolling table, to pull-out for access if placed in a corner
  • Can work in a 12x12 foot bedroom, depending on the doorways, with access on two or three sides.  Maybe and depending on the room layout.  The layout can be squeezed down to 6.5' by 11'.

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I may do more with the scenery at some point.

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Now for something completely different.  Well, not really.  I made this effort with two goals, I wanted to know if I could make the outside perimeter minimum O48 (improved appearance and grace, and O42 equipment), and I wanted to see if I could improve access and reach into the interior of the layout, knowing that for homes and for most of its time, the layout is likely to be up against a wall or in a corner.

So I reworked and rotated the layout.  It was an ugly process, but the result is interesting.

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One person might be able to operate inside the triangle with the lift-out bridges in place, but it would be tight.

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@Prewarrkt posted:

If everything was 036 FasTrack could it be reduces to 5’6 x 10’

No, the curvature of the outside perimeter doesn't add anything to the width or length.  Removing the outside perimeter would do that, but that is a different layout then.  The redo above actually shrunk the layout by 2", from 6'6"by11'6" to slightly smaller 6'4"by11'6".

A more conventional way to connect two loops would shrink the layout, this one is unusual in the way the loops connect (and interesting).  I have published other layouts on the forum that connect two loops in different configurations, that are either narrower or shorter than this one.

Here is a smaller layout that connects two loops together to show what I mean, only 5'x9':

M59-02-V2e-SheyenneValley

Here is another different idea, 5'x10' connecting two loops with return loops and crossings:

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One more, just because, this one is 5'x12'.  The INSIDE route is O44 compound (running O42) with a wider compound route outside:

M512-03-5X12_O36O48_v2b--interchangeable

Here is the 4x10 I am running now:

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This version has more "efficient" cross-overs between the O48 and O36 routes.  The layout is a bit shorter at 11'4" long, and still 6'4" wide.

The passing track is O48 (O48 is Blue).

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Doesn't look much like the original "toy train" style layout, but is better in many ways.  But I can understand if someone prefers the earlier style in 6'6" by 11'6"  - personal choice:

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Or even the O31 FasTrack close to the actual catalog layout:

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I replaced the FasTrack lift-out bridges with two Atlas-O bridges, each a single section,  of 40", and the other slightly less at 39 7/16" (due to the fit with FasTrack).

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I might cut four 10" sections of Fastrack to make a better fit approaching the bridges, and to give a square end to the track section for the bridge to butt-up against.   And make each bridge section exactly 40".

For scale, that is about an 11 year-old kid operating trains in the center, using the Lionel Universal Remote.

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The above "mature and modern" track plan departed significantly from the original design vision of the catalog plan.  So I felt like taking a few minutes to re-look at an earlier plan that still looks like the original design.

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This updated and modernized version of the track plan has these enhancements over the original:

  1. O31 FasTrack Minimum
  2. O36 FasTrack for the outside loop and passing track (BLUE) (and the connecting RR has two O60 turnouts).
  3. The addition of the 2nd cross-over creates a passing track
  4. The addition of the figure-8 and crossing allows train reversing and train routing fun
  5. Added a 3-track mini-yard, with a switch lead that does not interfere with running the inside loop (a third operator working the yard)
  6. The top spur was extended to make a connection with another RR with O60 turnouts (or for future expansion), adding operating purpose and rational.  This spur can also stage a third train, to take turns with two other trains.
  7. Construct as a table with legs on rolling wheels, to pull away from the wall for 360-degree access.
  8. This two-train layout has options for three trains with the top O60 staging track, and a fourth train standing on the passing track.  A switcher could be positioned in the yard, for five locos.  Perhaps three operators.

 Still 6.5x11.5 as the original plan.  Unless pulled away from the wall for 360-degree access, it has problems with reach and access.  This size can be made a single table on rolling legs, to help with that problem,  The very interior is a long reach, even with 360-degree access.

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A couple more additions:

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With the new Passenger Boarding Track, the layout can host FIVE trains!:  One operating on each loop, the Connecting RR Spur staging, the passing track, and the Passenger Boarding Track.   Plus a switcher operating the yard, for six locos and three operators.

Checking the 2020 Lionel Catalog, most LionChief trains sets are O31.  Those with the Tier 4 locos require O36.  There are some O27 sets as well.

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