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Hi everyone,

 

I am just wondering if anyone has tinted there hydrocal as they mix it instead of spraying a tinting agent on after the curing process.  In the past I have sprayed the color afterwards and the look was just fine.  Is there a point to this or am I just overthinking a simple process?    So what are your thoughts?  If you have done it what were the results like? This is some of what I have done in the past.

 

 

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Originally Posted by AlanRail:

the issue with tinting Hydrocal or any plaster or any like substance is that it gets absorbed.

Your tinting after looks great why fix what isn't ....

That's a very good point.  I am very happy with the final appearance as it stands, I was just curious if there was any benefit in doing it.  But you're right...if it ain't broke...

 

 

Originally Posted by Avanti:

I often throw in some acrylic paint to soften the stark white color. It helps if there are ever chips or other exposed raw plaster. But I agree that it is an inefficient way to attempt to get to the final target color. It would take way too much paint and would involve a lot of guesswork to get it right.

I can see what your saying, the amount needed would be a waste as opposed to spraying the surface area.

Tinting the Hydrocal may be OK to achieve a relatively close color of the rock you want to create. It's kind of like tinting primer; it makes the finish coat cover better. However, there is no substitute for the shade variations that occur naturally, and are what the modeler strives to recreate. The tinting would also be helpful in instances where the surface may get chipped, making it look like a more realistic shearing of the rock, as in frost fracturing, or a piece of rock falling from above, or even human intervention.

Always test your mixture, to make sure it reacts as desired. Somewhere in a post on another forum I'm a member of is the formula for Hydrocal. Maybe I can ask the original poster to resubmit it.

Don

Originally Posted by Mike CT:

Thank you

Here is a link to another thread on rocks that has some of the Kalmbach Scenery wash information.

 

 Excellent information, thank you.

 

Originally Posted by trainman129:

Be careful adding coloring agents to wet plaster. Some of them can cause the plaster to set much more rapidly than normal. Ask how I know this....

 Uh Ohhh....I didn't know that, thank you for the tip.  Sorry to hear you had that experience.  

 

Originally Posted by rail:

Tinting the Hydrocal may be OK to achieve a relatively close color of the rock you want to create. It's kind of like tinting primer; it makes the finish coat cover better. However, there is no substitute for the shade variations that occur naturally, and are what the modeler strives to recreate. The tinting would also be helpful in instances where the surface may get chipped, making it look like a more realistic shearing of the rock, as in frost fracturing, or a piece of rock falling from above, or even human intervention.

Always test your mixture, to make sure it reacts as desired. Somewhere in a post on another forum I'm a member of is the formula for Hydrocal. Maybe I can ask the original poster to resubmit it.

Don

 Oh exactly right, nature can not be substituted...but I sure like trying.  That would be great if you could get that information. I would appreciate it.

http://www.hirstarts.com/casting/dental.    http://www.trainorders.com/dis...on/read.php?3,421019

These are links for alternative products instead of Hydrocal. My friend replied to my e mail about the formula, and I must have deleted it by mistake. Hydrocal is basically Plaster of Paris. He said he uses setting compound, which achieves the same hardness, but is lower in cost and has a longer working time.

Don

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