Tried to change a production sound file and now the Engine is dead

Have you tried reloading the original sound file? That is about all I can think of. Not sure if a dead battery could be part of the problem or not?

Maybe one of the pros will be along with further assistance.

Thanks for the suggestion. I did try that but the loader program will not recognize the engine.

Blake

Yikes! I might delete the engine from the remote.....  I mean  the ID with no name  and  then try the recover engine feature,    . Try adding again even if the recover doesn't recover the engine..

It's not a good thing the loader won't recognize the engine.

Do you have a lot of stuff installed in the remote?  A remote reset will delete everything.

Gregg, Just gave that a try and if I leave the engine (it remains unknown) in the directory and try to recover the engine it says it is recovered, but the remote adds another no name engine and not functions work. I tried deleting the engine then recovery, but the remote says, "No Engine Recovered," and then when I add it back in, which it does, but with no name and no functions working. All other engines are working great on the layout.

Thanks, Blake

 I think that's a good thing if you received the 'engine recovered" message  .  However the recover engine feature just recovers the engines and doesn't automatically add it to the remote.  You still  have to add it . It seems you've  added the engine you're getting the same  old problem   . An ID with no name.  If this engine  has an upgrade kit installed that's normal however if not it's usually a sign of a weak dcs signal or put another way   a poor add.  Find a spot with a good dcs signal,  delete the engine and try adding again.

You could also try the loader again to find out if it recognizes  the recovered engine.

I hope you have a good battery in the engine other wise  a factory or feature reset will not stay with the engine.

Blake,

When you say that the engine added to the remote but it "no functions working", what exactly doesn't work? Does anything about the engine work under DCS?

Can you select the engine in there remote's engine list and bring it onto the remote's screen? if you can, what happens when you press Startup? Does it make lights and sounds, and does it move?

Barry,

I can bring it up on the remote screen, but start-up does not work, no sound or lights. The remote only gives it a number and yes I can select it, but nothing works under DCS. In conventional, it clicks when power is applied and nothing works.

It is not an upgraded board, I purchase the engine brand new and I have replaced one FET on the slave board a few weeks ago and its been running great!

I was simply trying to get the sounds to match the engine's passenger cars. Maybe the sound files I tried to load are not compatible. Somehow those sound files did a number on board. Is there a way to reload files that will make it work?

I really don't think it is a signal problem.

Thanks for responding,

Blake

If a TIU and Remote can see the engine and load it, I do not see how the loader program and TIU can not at least recognize the engine?  Is it same TIU?  Are you sure Computer recognized TIU?   I would go back and restart from beginning and try to reload the sound file after a Factory reset is done with the remote.  It may also not be using the battery circuit since the engine just reloads each time.  I... not setting an address after power turned off.   G

It is the same TIU. I am not sure if the computer didn't recognize the TIU or the engine, so I will try that again and see what I can find out.

Thanks,

Blake

Just a shot in the dark, but any chance you accidentally changed one of the switches on the bottom?

John, no accidental changes to switches.

G, here are the screens I get when I tried it a second time. The first is after the initial attempt. The second is after a retry and the third, is from the MTH web site showing that both are suppose to be 3 volt boards.

Thanks for the help, again!

Blake

Actually I was wrong when I wrote above, "no lights" in answer to Barry. On initial power up in conventional the lights on front A blink on and then turn off.

Blake

What size battery does the engine take? I'm wondering if the board will only accept 1 MB size files.

I think you're making head way   but not much. At least you have a engine to work with. 

Question for the experts .... As the 5 volt board wear out an Upgrade kit is used for repair with the appropriate sound file. (ps-3) ??  Does the MTH web site still have the original 5 volt sound files.? I  have a few 5 volt files burned on CDs, I'm probably never going to  use them , but you never know.

After recovering the engine perhaps the sound file you saved to the computer might now  install?

While I was waiting for a reply as to how I could proceed, I gave it another try and low and behold it started downloading the sound file. I did not touch a wire on any component, nor did I even touch the train on the track. I did not reload the downloader program or the sound file. The only difference is that yesterday it took only 7 minutes to download the program to 100% completion before giving me the error code and killing the engine. This time I notice it was going back and rewriting the sound files at a slower rate (see the picture below) and it took 16 minutes. The lesson - faster is not allows better! Especially when downloading a sound file. I have no idea why this process seems to have a mind of its own. I am glad that is over. Thanks for all the suggestions.

Blake

I take it that you got things working again. Did you get the new file loaded or did you have to go back to the old file? Just curious for future reference here. Glad you got something loaded anyway.

RTR12,

Yes, it is working great and I have NEW Zephyr passenger sounds.

Blake

That's good that you got the new sounds too. These things can sometimes be a bit fiddly for no obvious reason.