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Well, my last two purchases have caused me problems. First, the BNSF Container cars. They used to come joined at the middle truck and ready-to-run. Now, they come as two separate cars with no instructions on how to put them together. It's not that hard to figure out, but you have to remove a 3/16" pin on the one truck to add the second car to it. If you don't have a 3/16" nut driver (like me), it is no picnic. My buddy finally got the pin out with  a pair of needle-nosed pliers so all is well., but why no instructions (I had to search for something close on Lionel's website) and why having to put them together in the first place?

 

Second problem is the new Scale O piggyback trailer set. (Beautiful, btw.) On mine which just arrived, one of the standards that holds one end of one trailer came falling out of the box. You can see where it went and where it looked like it was originally glued to the car floor. Plus there is a tiny pin that holds the apparatus together and it was rolling around in the box, too. After spending nearly an hour trying to get the pin back into the standard to hold it up properly w/o luck, I gave up and propped the trailer on the flatcar. It looks pretty good, actually, but what the heck? Pay all that money and have the stuff fall apart out of the box?

 

I would suggest that Lionel back off a bit with the FRAGILE scale details and use components that are more bulletproof.

 

When I buy a Lionel product, I do not want to have to finagle with it for hours before I can get it semi working, you know? Plus a lot of Lionel's customers are old guys like me and our hands don't work so good with these tiny, tiny parts anymore when we have to assemble or reassemble them.

 

Frustrated.

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Dave I agree with you and your frustration but the best thing to do is contact Lionel or Mike Reagan directly and explain the problems you are having with them. 

 

I have had issues with Lionel, MTH, Williams and Atlas items and I went directly to the company involved to get something corrected.  This is not the place, IMHO.

 

Steve, Lady and Tex

Although a nice touch, that collapsable fifth wheel on the flat cars can be a PITA. I wouldn't mind a static or one-piece stand that's removable. As for the maxi stacks, maybe lionel could include a 'key' type driver. My son recently go a Playmobil set that had a special tool included to assemble the building. Sometimes the packaging is more to blame than the product itself. I like the way Atlas packages it's product in a sturdy insert. The Lionel clamshell allows too much flex in my opinion.

Dave Warburton,

   I have a little different way of looking at these kind of problems, 1st remember you are no longer dealing with USA quality control when purchasing from most of these train businesses, this is just SOP for their businesses.  It's going to happen no matter what they tell ya.  So far I have never had a Weaver car mailed to my home with these kind of problems, Weaver still makes most of their rolling stock right here in Pa, however some of their detailed stuff is pretty delicate also.  IMO there is no problem with you letting other forum members understand there are problems with certain items, no matter who is making them.  IMO this is exactly the place to reveal problems

and to help get them corrected.  It also help members with knowing the exact quality of an item, before they invest their hard earned money.  Understand general griping is for old ladies and something a man does not participate in, warning people of actual factual problems & helping to get them correct, is something completely different.  We all get old buddy, and engineering even in our train hobby is not done to make it easy for us older guys that is for sure.

PCRR/Dave  

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