I recently saw an ad in the Newest Issue of Railroad Model Craftsman Magazine, on the second page there was a add for this Union Station Products, I have never heard of them before, I somehow missed this company, but I googled there site and found it rather interesting, so I ordered a Core Kit and and a kit for the C&O 5 Dbrm Lge Obs car, being a C&O fan, I wanted one to build for my fleet of C&O collection, it took about an week to get the kit in the mail, I had a ideal about what was coming, but after I got it and Opened the box, disappointment set in, what I couldn't understand why the piece that make's the blunt end wasn't included in the kit, you have to order that separate, which makes no sense whatsoever to me, plus after reading several different replies from Form Members on this subject, I am glad that I did, because they lack an lot of details, the side's are Great, and the side's for the windows are nice, but adding additional weight is the trick, the roofs are pretty flimsy, the best solution for the roofs might be the MTH Railking Lightweight Passenger Car's, that are based on the C&O Prototype of there 1950 Pullman Standard Order, there only 15" in length, but could be considered an donor body for this project.
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I think the blunt end is to be formed by bending the extreme end from each side with a window and using the small separate piece with the window to complete the end. The vestibule end comes with the core kit. The blunt end is comprised of 3 pieces- 2 bent ends plus the small narrow center piece
I have built several of the USP kits and find them excellent. They do take effort but a nice model can be made. Just my humble opinion.
Leon
The Roof is almost paper thin, after reading the post about the Seaboard "Henderson" Pullman with the bubble distorted roof look, I am not sure if the core chassis will work, I guess I'll Haft too put it together first too see if it works Or not, but I have a backup plan if it doesn't work out, but I do appreciate your comments either way.
The USP car sides are great, but I suggest you find an old American Lightweight Car Company kit to use as the core. The roof from these kits fit the USP sides and you get a lot of usable parts in the kit like the car ends, underframe details, roof vents, a lot of strip styrene, etc. These turn up on ebay frequently and they're pretty much all the same except for the sides (just make sure you purchase a kit for an 85 ft car). The USP sides fit great. This C&O coach uses the USP sides and ALCC parts for everything else:
At the very least you can purchase a roof from fellow forum member VGN64 who the current owner of ALCC.
I also purchased the USP kit for the C&O observation. I haven't started on it yet, but my plan was to cut the window sections for the blunt end from the main sides and build up the end. Once the sides are assembled to the floor, glue the end to sides and floor, reinforce the inside corners with some styrene, and then sand the outside corners down to round them off. I haven't figured out how to get the add on fluting to go around from the sides to the rear.
In any case these kits build up to make a nice car but expect to put a lot of time into it.
Ken
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Looks like a very nice build Kanawha! Beautiful car.
BH
up148 posted:
well this does no good to talk about this as OGR has locked the thread from further
discussion.
Bob Harris posted:up148 posted:well this does no good to talk about this as OGR has locked the thread from further
discussion.
and we know why.
Look on page 2 of the 2-rail forum. There's more info about USP.
I would link to it but can't seem to get it right on my IPad.
Since we are talking about Passenger car parts, I just wanted to chime in here. Most of the things people said the need are already available. You can get ends---doors and roofs are in the works. all parts will work with USP products. The roofs are being made and will be available in about 90 days. It is my understanding they will be a one piece casting done by an outside vendor and sold by a different person.
Most people including myself, agree the core kit USP sells for O scale will not work because of scale it will buckle. This is why the roof is in the works.
these are O scale parts.
Hope this helps
Bob Harris
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Bob Harris posted:Bob Harris posted:up148 posted:well this does no good to talk about this as OGR has locked the thread from further
discussion.
and we know why.
Strange, because I can still get there and it opens up. But, maybe not for long.
Sorry, I missed your point. You meant no new replies can be added. Yep, thread is too old.
BH