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Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by Ralph M:

I love this photo that I stumbled upon while browsing the RR Pictures Archive.net website. the photographer is James Gillin. The location is McKeesport, PA and the year is 1964.

 

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GREAT photo!!! Thanks for posting.......has a real 'mood' to it......any idea the street names???

 

Sorry I'm late fellas - got up really early to be out on Lake Fontana @ 0700 Hrs (70 mi away through these mountains) for a few hours of bass fishin' hosted by our office manager...

 

The beautiful D&H Alco PA's seem to come up for discussion from time to time. There is a forum member looking for a set of the R.O.W. models from the early 1990s posted on the 'WTB' forum.  Here is a nice shot of the prototype and a couple of ours from a few years ago. These are the R.O.W. models that are brass and have a high level of detail considering when they were built (by Ajin Brass in Korea). Lionel, Williams, and MTH have all produced models as an ABA set while the D&H never owned any B units. I guess as modelers/hobbyists we tend to like the familiar three unit locomotives in the PA's... 

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My beloved B&O 0-6-0 steam engine took a jump off my elevated loop, hit the table top, fell off the table, hit a "footrest" beam on the bottom of the table, then finally hit the floor. Ugly stuff although thankfully more cosmetic  than mechanical - and I can easily fix the busted up coal load, minor paint dings, etc. Still, it wasn't pretty. 

 

Since some of the mechanical issues were a bit beyond my abilities, I took my engine to my LHS this morning. I looked at my bill and saw this and had to laugh! This is the problem description - thankfully it was fixed while I waited. 

 

Tip for the future - don't lean over the controls and accidentally bump the throttle "wide open"!!!!

 

 

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Originally Posted by RICKC:

MartyE, that B&O in McKeesport is crossing 5th ave.  It only has about 100 yards or so to go then it will cross Lysle Blvd.  Then make its way past National Tube Works heading to Pittsburgh.

 

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Thanks for that info.......it looks like that entire area is altered beyond anything recognizable today.  Went to Google street view and had a hard time finding anything. 

Ralph M., very hard to tell from that pic whether it is freight or passenger train. Both freight and passenger trains went thru town.  I remember when we would go thru McKeesport in the car I used to hope we would catch the train going thru town.  Don't know what speed they went but they were pretty slow.  They had to cross Lylse Blvd and 5th Ave.  Both were main roads at that time.  And 5th Ave was thru the middle of town just about.  I can remember times the train would stop and block both roads.  People would climb across the couplers.  I don't remember anyone ever getting hurt but still a stupid thing to do.

 

Rick

Most of us have probably had someone come up and ask us about an old Lionel train. That happened to me at work this week, as a colleague brought in an "old train" from childhood. I offered her book value, or said I'd repair it for her, but she insisted it was mine to keep. No, not a 773, a more pedestrian 1654, sans tender. But, it is historic, being one of the first post-war locomotives. So, I started on the motor and got it operational. Next will be some cleaning on the exterior. I paired it with one of my tenders until I can get one more original, and it will take to the rails in conventional operation.

 

 

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Here is the block of McKeesport that the B&O station sat on.....the the double track ran.......you'd be hard pressed to find any trace of the tracks, station or even tube works today......sad in a way.  My Mom grew up in that area.....lots of good hard working people made a good life there. 

Photo via Google Street View....

 

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For all of you who know McKeesport, can someone comment on the Western Pennsylvania Model Railroad Museum's rendition in HO of McKeesport.  Is the station and or crossings shown in the photos here the ones  they modeled.  I grew up in Butler County and have been living here again for the last 20 years.  I have very seldom been in the Mon Valley.

Thanks!!

 

Once again, great photos everyone!!

Originally Posted by MartyE:
Lysle or 5th. 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by Ralph M:

I love this photo that I stumbled upon while browsing the RR Pictures Archive.net website. the photographer is James Gillin. The location is McKeesport, PA and the year is 1964.

 

2898_JamesGillin-2

 

 

GREAT photo!!! Thanks for posting.......has a real 'mood' to it......any idea the street names???

 

Hi Dave:

 

Thanks for posting this and the other photos which brought back some memories.  Attached are two more shots of that same intersection from different angles.  These photos are from Bill Volkmer’s Book “Pennsylvania Trolleys in Color, Volume III, The Pittsburgh Region.  Shown are Pittsburgh Railways PCC streetcars whose tracks along 5th Avenue crossed those of the B&O.  That yellow and orange bus in your photo is a Pittsburgh Railways bus that replaced the streetcars in 1963.

 

I worked part-time at Cox’s Department Store on 5th Avenue while attending the McKeesport campus of Penn State.  It was a busy place then.

 

Those train tracks were a constant subject of controversy in McKeesport as discussed in this article: Click here: Local History @ tubecityonline.com

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by MartyE:
Lysle or 5th. 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by Ralph M:

I love this photo that I stumbled upon while browsing the RR Pictures Archive.net website. the photographer is James Gillin. The location is McKeesport, PA and the year is 1964.

 

2898_JamesGillin-2

 

 

GREAT photo!!! Thanks for posting.......has a real 'mood' to it......any idea the street names???

 

Agree with everyone on this one, from the National Records store front,  Hanover shoes and 1 day loans buildings and 1950's era looking signage.  Add in the late 1950's bus awaiting clearance to cross the tracks........  lots of great vintage action.

 

Mark

The great B&O photo got me going so here is my vintage view for the evening:

 

From 1952:  San Francisco Municipal Railway Trolley#1109 on Market Street passing the Lowe's  in the summer of 1952,  complete with the new film of the week with Fred Astaire and Vera Ellen......  lots of great vintage action on the street.

 

MCKKES3I have enjoyed all the comments about the views of McKeesport.  I have lived in the Pittsburgh area my entire life.  My understanding is that the B&O tracks that sliced through the heart of McKeesport were quite a problem, especially with regard to traffic.  As a result, the B&O was rerouted onto the P&LE which ran by the edge of town (along the Monongahela River) in the early or mid 1960's (1964 I think?).  Once completed, the B&O tracks in downtown McKeesport were removed.  I assume work was  done on the P&LE as well...the bridge carrying it over the mouth of the Youghiogheny River as it spills into the Mon is of relatively modern construction given its lack of lacing bars and the prescience of oval cut outs in the girders.

I would have only have been around 8 years old at the time, and never got to that area until I started driving in 1972, but I've heard many stories about it from the old time model railroaders around here who saw it first hand. 

 

Presumably, this photo shows the removal of the tracks once the relocation was completed.

 

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