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While freight consists typically featured a caboose and steam loco from the same livery would a consist ever have a caboose and loco from different roads?. Specifically could a Pennsy steam loco have been mated with an Erie or Bethlem Steel work or transfer canboose in the same consist? Would a small Reading steamer ever be seen with a Pennsy, Erie, B7O, or Bethlehem Steel transfer caboose? Would it have been rare for that to ever happen? What about on short lines, were work or transfer cabeese always the same road as the steam locomotive was? 

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Before the "Pool Cab" agreement (where conductors had their own assigned caboose) came to pass in the diesel era, I would doubt it. That said, after the pool cab agreement and conductors lost their assigned cab, it did happen. We had a joint N&W/Reading train, #17 & #18, that used N&W power with a Reading caboose.

I remember CN cabs (parent road) on the GTW at Port Huron and Detroit, but cannot remember if they were pulled by steam or the first gen diesels. Too, they could very well have been caboose hops between Canada and the US. I don't think I have photographic evidence to back that up...too much gray matter between the ears now.

 

Neil

Originally Posted by Hot Water:

If you are specifically inquiring about the "steam era", especially prior to WWII, then it would have been pretty rare for another railroad's caboose to be on a different railroad's freight train. Remember, back in the "days of steam" many Conductors, especially SENIOR Conductors, had their own assigned caboose.

And, believe me, the Conductor was a little king - often a tyrant - about his car.  He decided who could, or could not, come inside, and no other Conductor - especially a foreign line Conductor - was going to use the car.

 

Now, much later, in the diesel era, starting in the late 1960's, when diesels began to run through on freight trains, and railroads had made an agreement with their Conductors to pay extra for the ability to pool cabooses, cabooses started running through in some cases.

 

However, there was always one thing to consider -- each railroad's agreement with the Order of Railway Conductors and the Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen had rules requiring that a caboose must be equipped with certain things.  This varied considerably from one railroad to the next, and prevented a lot of caboose pooling.  That's why there were sometimes certain cars set up for through service and painted, or at least stenciled, to indicate this.

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Lubbock, TX in the 1970's, the ATSF and Missouri Pacific had some kind of trackage agreement that caused trains to come down the Slaton Div with MP power and ATSF cabooses.   I never saw an MP caboose on that arrangement, but plenty of MP locos.

The longest train I ever saw was one of those MP trains with 256 cars.

And, believe me, the Conductor was a little king - often a tyrant - about his car.  He decided who could, or could not, come inside, and no other Conductor - especially a foreign line Conductor - was going to use the car.


Somewhat OT, but I had an Uncle, PRR man from the steam era, who on nearing retirement in the PC era, according to family legend, did all manner of things, including putting a wood block in place of a broken spring to keep HIS PRR cabin from going into the shop, where it would come out green with worms in love on the side.   He worked a local job with regular hours and when he retired, the cabin was still red.

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