Would like the royal gorge scenic train be a scheme available.
I'm in the Allegheny camp...
A remote for the cab-3 similar to cab-2 remote with physical buttons, sliders, throttle wheel, brake/boost and vibrational feedback
Just saw someone leak the catalog on social media. “Allegedly,” there is another Hudson, a bit of NYC and PRR, and the return of some diesels that are synonymous to Lionel.
@GG1 4877 posted:My only prediction that has any real possibility: higher prices.
Definitely going to be a sticker shock year....
@Trainmaster04 posted:Just saw someone leak the catalog on social media. “Allegedly,” there is another Hudson, a bit of NYC and PRR, and the return of some diesels that are synonymous to Lionel.
what platform? facebook, youtube, instagram?
@Trainmaster04 posted:Just saw someone leak the catalog on social media. “Allegedly,” there is another Hudson, a bit of NYC and PRR, and the return of some diesels that are synonymous to Lionel.
That is correct, Commodore hudson and more PRR Turbines
@tom21pa posted:what platform? facebook, youtube, instagram?
I found it on YouTube. It was not a video but a community post.
@Sara Acqua posted:That is correct, Commodore hudson and more PRR Turbines
I truly hope Lionel gets the paint on the Hudson’s correct. I wasn’t born yet when the TMCC Vanderbilts came out but I have heard plenty of grief.
I was also surprised by how many fantasy schemes Lionel is marking with the turbines. Such as a SP Daylight, C&O yellow belly, and a tuscan red. Crazy!
@Trainmaster04 posted:I was also surprised by how many fantasy schemes Lionel is marking with the turbines. Such as a SP Daylight, C&O yellow belly, and a tuscan red. Crazy!
Obviously fantasy paint schemes sell. Not my cup of tea, but obviously a lot of people like them.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Obviously fantasy paint schemes sell. Not my cup of tea, but obviously a lot of people like them.
True. I have a friend that has reached a point with his collection where if it’s not unique he will not get it. I have a feeling he will be interested with this catalog.
I think I had said of the VL Hudson's that they may do at least two sets of passenger cars but for what two, you got me.
Speculation on the Commodore Vanderbilt may be a done deal and they would definitely run cars with it. Of course they'd probably do a fantasy paint scheme with that, and whomever wants it, be my guest.
I am really hoping that what I said earlier is true, a Duplex and or some Q's. If they don't have either of those, what would they run against the Hudson's or the Commodore, Torpedoes? I doubt that. Maybe they'll do some other Streamlined engines that they may have a tooling for.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I think I had said of the VL Hudson's that they may do at least two sets of passenger cars but for what two, you got me.
Speculation on the Commodore Vanderbilt may be a done deal and they would definitely run cars with it. Of course they'd probably do a fantasy paint scheme with that, and whomever wants it, be my guest.
I am really hoping that what I said earlier is true, a Duplex and or some Q's. If they don't have either of those, what would they run against the Hudson's or the Commodore, Torpedoes? I doubt that. Maybe they'll do some other Streamlined engines that they may have a tooling for.
I have not seen any Duplexes unfortunately. Passenger cars appear to be 18” heavyweights labeled for the 20th Century Limited. There is a Tinplate inspired set similar to the one made by MTH with a grey J1e with an oil tender.
Not sure why the rexall train is missing from this catalog? Muffin? Need another commodore?
rat
I can’t find the facebook community post
@Terrance posted:I can’t find the facebook community post
it was youtube. tho i cant find it there either. maybe @Trainmaster04 could help out
If they do not have command controlled sounds and smoke in the O scale 57' mechanical refrigerator cars, it would be a shocking disappointment.
Andrew
@tom21pa posted:it was youtube. tho i cant find it there either. maybe @Trainmaster04 could help out
No problem. To keep this thread going I will only include a link to the YT channel.
https://m.youtube.com/@chicagolandrailroader
Thanks, only a few things I like.
I would love to see somebody make a correct SD70Mac or SD70M with flared radiators. Lionel made flared SD70 locos 20 years ago with an [incorrect] Union Pacific paint scheme. The port side of the engine was clearly an SD70Mac, not an SD70M. It [almost] looks like an Alaska or CSX SD70Mac with the flared radiators but without the two-piece, insulated cab. The SD70Mac is also longer in the back. Lionel didn't release them for either railroad. Instead, they released it for Union Pacific twice and called it an SD70M (because the real Union Pacific has the SD70M, not the SD70Mac). They could get away with re-releasing that model in CSX or Alaska paint and legacy electronics. It's not exact, but nothing ever is. MTH/Atlas makes accurate "flat" SD70Ms for UP, but no flared models. They also got the paint right.
That said, I also think it's weird that the K-Line by Lionel SD70Macs are the only accurate models in O scale. They're the only versions that have the two-piece, insulated cab (the seam around the nose). I understand it makes more sense to make a single model and paint it in every railroad's colors regardless of individual railroads' unique features, but all the railroads who bought the SD70Mac had that feature. As far as I can tell, only BN had one-piece noses, but BN also bought versions with two-piece noses. So why bother with one-piece noses? Both Lionel and MTH captured that feature when they made their SD80Mac models.
Here's a K-line model for reference (my photo):
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@CharmCityAirLine posted:I would love to see somebody make a correct SD70Mac or SD70M with flared radiators. Lionel made flared SD70 locos 20 years ago with an [incorrect] Union Pacific paint scheme. The port side of the engine was clearly an SD70Mac, not an SD70M. It [almost] looks like an Alaska or CSX SD70Mac with the flared radiators but without the two-piece, insulated cab. The SD70Mac is also longer in the back. Lionel didn't release them for either railroad. Instead, they released it for Union Pacific twice and called it an SD70M (because the real Union Pacific has the SD70M, not the SD70Mac). They could get away with re-releasing that model in CSX or Alaska paint and legacy electronics. It's not exact, but nothing ever is. MTH/Atlas makes accurate "flat" SD70Ms for UP, but no flared models. They also got the paint right.
That said, I also think it's weird that the K-Line by Lionel SD70Macs are the only accurate models in O scale. They're the only versions that have the two-piece, insulated cab (the seam around the nose). I understand it makes more sense to make a single model and paint it in every railroad's colors regardless of individual railroads' unique features, but all the railroads who bought the SD70Mac had that feature. As far as I can tell, only BN had one-piece noses, but BN also bought versions with two-piece noses. So why bother with one-piece noses? Both Lionel and MTH captured that feature when they made their SD80Mac models.
Here's a K-line model for reference (my photo):
Just more es44s again
The Vision Line Polar Express Vanderbilt caught my eye. I have a decade worth of PolEx scale freight that needs pulling.
@c.sam posted:Would like to see a PRR T1 in the version that the T1 Project is working on with the portholes in the front skirt.
I got tired of waiting, I picked up the MTH PS/3 version. So now I have the original Lionel T1 Duplex that I upgraded to Legacy and the MTH Premier PS/3 T1 Duplex.
Truthfully, I might still buy a Legacy T1 Duplex if it was the fully skirted version like the MTH model...
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@c.sam posted:Would like to see a PRR T1 in the version that the T1 Project is working on with the portholes in the front skirt.
The T1 Trust is building the last version of the T1 without portholes. Their early brochure’s drawing shows the T1 with portholes and I don’t think they have updated it. The wrap around fairing with portholes made maintenance difficult for the PRR, so I think the Trust doesn’t want the extra work either.
I find it interesting the MTH version of the T1 is so popular. Only two were made, and all the fairings were removed soon after they went into service. For most of the T1’s short life, they looked like Lionel’s version.
I'm not waiting either. 
I currently have a brass 3rd Rail T1 (#6110 with original long nose, portholes, full skirting, keystone on the pilot, and streamlined tender with huge Pennsy keystone in all their glory) out for a Legacy upgrade. The nose on this model of the prototype appears the most accurate to me out of all T1s ever done by any O manufacturer. It's a gorgeous locomotive.
This older thread makes for some relevant T1 reading BTW: https://ogrforum.com/topic/ple...ufacturer-comparison
@CAPPilot posted:I find it interesting the MTH version of the T1 is so popular. Only two were made, and all the fairings were removed soon after they went into service. For most of the T1’s short life, they looked like Lionel’s version.
Why are so many one of a kind locomotives so popular? The reason is simple, they're great looking locomotives and there is at least one real prototype. Just think about all the 6200 turbines that were produced from the single PRR prototype. Why are there so many S2 Turbine models? Same reason!
The Daylight Turbine has me really, really tempted....
Although knowing the Lionel pricing it will likely be too much for me. Which is good as it means it will be too much for quite a few others and they will sit around at hobbystores until I can scrape together the funds to justify it
@CharmCityAirLine posted:I would love to see somebody make a correct SD70Mac or SD70M with flared radiators. Lionel made flared SD70 locos 20 years ago with an [incorrect] Union Pacific paint scheme. The port side of the engine was clearly an SD70Mac, not an SD70M. It [almost] looks like an Alaska or CSX SD70Mac with the flared radiators but without the two-piece, insulated cab. The SD70Mac is also longer in the back. Lionel didn't release them for either railroad. Instead, they released it for Union Pacific twice and called it an SD70M (because the real Union Pacific has the SD70M, not the SD70Mac). They could get away with re-releasing that model in CSX or Alaska paint and legacy electronics. It's not exact, but nothing ever is. MTH/Atlas makes accurate "flat" SD70Ms for UP, but no flared models. They also got the paint right.
That said, I also think it's weird that the K-Line by Lionel SD70Macs are the only accurate models in O scale. They're the only versions that have the two-piece, insulated cab (the seam around the nose). I understand it makes more sense to make a single model and paint it in every railroad's colors regardless of individual railroads' unique features, but all the railroads who bought the SD70Mac had that feature. As far as I can tell, only BN had one-piece noses, but BN also bought versions with two-piece noses. So why bother with one-piece noses? Both Lionel and MTH captured that feature when they made their SD80Mac models.
Here's a K-line model for reference (my photo):
Overland Models (now, no longer in business) also imported SD70M & SD70MAC, with era and road specific details, but only in 2-rail. My BN, SD70MAC was from 1995 and the BNSF, was from 1999. I think they also imported the CSX, SD70MAC (with flared radiators) around 2006. I wanted to get it but couldn't resist the Union Pacific Heritage SD70ACe, that also came out around the same time.
These are just my opinion,
Naveen Rajan
@naveenrajan posted:Overland Models (now, no longer in business) also imported SD70M & SD70MAC, with era and road specific details, but only in 2-rail. My BN, SD70MAC was from 1995 and the BNSF, was from 1999. I think they also imported the CSX, SD70MAC (with flared radiators) around 2006. I wanted to get it but couldn't resist the Union Pacific Heritage SD70ACe, that also came out around the same time.
These are just my opinion,
Naveen Rajan
Now those are some beautiful locomotives!
Thank's for this reply -I had no idea Overland was an option. I'll keep my eye out for sure!
Well if those leaks are true, I'm a little bummed.
I was really expecting some Lionel Lines lettered brown heavyweights to be offered for the Hudsons. I know that isn't accurate at all but that is my preference for rolling stock.
I suppose we will know more in a week.
@RamblerDon posted:Well if those leaks are true, I'm a little bummed.
I was really expecting some Lionel Lines lettered brown heavyweights to be offered for the Hudsons. I know that isn't accurate at all but that is my preference for rolling stock.
I suppose we will know more in a week.
There's brown nyc heavyweights for the Niagara fall train, red and blue lionel lines heavyweight cars to match vision Commodore vanderbilts
@tom21pa posted:There's brown nyc heavyweights for the Niagara fall train, red and blue lionel lines heavyweight cars to match vision Commodore vanderbilts
I really do like the blue cars. The prewar freight is really cool also.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I got tired of waiting, I picked up the MTH PS/3 version. So now I have the original Lionel T1 Duplex that I upgraded to Legacy and the MTH Premier PS/3 T1 Duplex.
Truthfully, I might still buy a Legacy T1 Duplex if it was the fully skirted version like the MTH model...
I am hopeful that if they acquired the tooling the the Duplex, that maybe they have the Q's as well. Only a little bit to go John for everyone to have that big disappointment and only a few smile. Or is it the other way around?
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I am hopeful that if they acquired the tooling the the Duplex, that maybe they have the Q's as well. Only a little bit to go John for everyone to have that big disappointment and only a few smile. Or is it the other way around?
Truthfully, I don't have much emotional swing with each release, I just take it as it comes. I have so much stuff now that it's better if nothing strikes my fancy if the truth be told. 
If they have something I really want, I'll probably get it. If they don't, I probably won't. 
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Truthfully, I don't have much emotional swing with each release, I just take it as it comes.
Ditto John. There are things that raise my eyebrow, but looking at some older things, that is where my fancy seems to be going. I could go for a Duplex or a Q to be sure, but I'm still messing with my ever growing Hudson collection, lol.
The EMD GP35 is in the catalog. They are producing Great Northern and C&O Chessie System, not Soo Line and Grand Trunk Western.
Andrew
The Vision Line auto racks with lights and sounds need to include glossy, plastic body automobile models with the automobile lighting effects inside.
Andrew
I'm so relieved there isn't an Allegheny in the catalog. That's a must have for me.
I would love to get a Commodore Vanderbilt but it doesn't really fit with my layout. The Turbine would be cool though. I'm interesting in that but we'll see.
The Star Wars stuff actually surprised me! I'm a big fan and I'm considering collecting one of the boxcars.
Cool catalog! I'm looking forward to the next one already!
Yes, I’m relieved too because an Allegheny and a T-1 duplex would have broken the bank! Just the AEC PS-5 gondola to at to the AEC set.
I'm concerned about an Allegheny popping up in the next release. I'm not sure I want to try to swing that and an S2. Luckily, there's some time to let it cook and think about it.
