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In order to get more consistent voltage to all parts of my layout I decided rather that run additional power wires from my TMCC Lockons to various parts of the track I would divide my two loops into two blocks each for a total of 4 blocks. I used fastrack block sections with the center wire disconnected to create the blocks. Two sections on each loop to create two blocks on each loop. I use power houses and Tmcc lockons to power each section of the loop.The outer loop which only has two turnouts that connect it to the inner loop works fine. The voltage is a consistent 18 now in each block. Loco runs fine until it is directed to the inner loop. It then shorts out in the middle of the turnout that leads to to connected turnout on the inner loop. I then did a test run on the inner loop and the loco shorts out in the middle of each block section. The inner loop also has several sidings it powers. 

 

Early on I had to remove my bascule bridge from the inner loop because it was cutting off power to one side of one block. I then read that it could not support point to point power without another power source on the opposite side. Having remedied that problem I thought all would be well, but not to be. 

  I ran my tester along the track on the inner loop and sure enough a short is created as it crosses the block section. 

  Is it possible to run this as described or will I have to revert to blocking all the sidings and power them independently? 

  I appreciate and help at this point as I am at best an amateur  electrician. 

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Marty meant to say, center rail outer loop to center rail inner loop.

 

You also need to isolate the turnouts from one another by using a 1 3/8" section of track with the center rail wire pulled in between the two turnout tracks. That will keep the outer loop power separate from the inner loop power.

 

Run all of your siding off of the inner loop mains.

 

Do you have a track diagram that could be marked up for wiring connections?

 

 

here's a track diagram photo. Open it with MS Paint and draw in you wiring schematic.

This has each loop with 2-5" block tracks and a 1 3/8" between the switches to represent the isolation point.

 

squiggly lines are ok.

 

Then, you'll probably see where you went wrong on your own.

 

I do have one question...If you are using PH-180's and constant voltage for command operation, why are you using the lock-on building?

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Opened your wiring diagram and it is giberish. All symbols and numbers. Thanks anyway. 

I checked the voltage across the turnouts and it registered between 36 and 37volts so that seems to indicate I need to reverse the leads for one the loops so they all work together. 

I use TMCC lockons because I don't use a transformer and they give me a very positive connection to the fastrack and the look cool.

    Phil 

I attached the wrong file-should have been a photo-here it is.

 

You can get molex connector and pins to connect to the brick lead and give you two wires for power connection. The PH has a wonderful breaker and should kick before the lock-on breaker does.

 

Your way works when you don't want to fool with building adapters.

 

 

 

 

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