williams steamers

Yes any of the oils will work in the Williams seuth spitter boiler lubricator er smoke unit.

David

Yes, messy things, and then they stop working. I'm working my way through my Williams steamers and replacing the Seuthe units.

Does anyone know how many Williams have back head detail?
Do most of the crown addition have it?
I like the williams steamers . I have a berk and i'd even convert it to TMCC if the motor wasn't sticking out in the cab. Makes me not want to buy another even though all the diesels I have and this steamer are great runners. That and I hope they don't make anymore with tab in slot drive rods.

David

Which smoke unit do you use to replace the Williams units?

The best smoke fluid I have found for Sleuth type smoke units is LGB smoke fluid.  A fluid with lower viscosity will perform better in the older Williams units (I think the Megasteam has a lower viscosity).

Good luck and Happy railroading,

Don

Some time ago there was a thread that explained that Seuth smoke fluid was different than regular smoke fluid. If you used regular smoke fluid in a Seuth smoker it would work but eventually it would clog it up. The thread recomended the use of Seuth or LGB fluid only.

Al

Mega steam will work just fine in the Seuthe (Pronounced Soy-tah)smoke units.The reason they spit and supper is that most people overfill them,Only a few drops 4-5 are needed.The drawback is that you have to refill them after about 10-15 mins of running.I still have them in some older Weaver,MTH and 3rd rail locomotives.They have held up just fine.

Ricky

I have to say the Seuthe works very well if you take care of it. The seuthe spits and sptters when you over fill. I found the magic number is seven. When the smoke stops I add seven drops of mega steam. It does have to be filled up after 10 to 15 minutes bu they honestly work well and do not spit on the engine. The mega steam also smells the best in these engines an you can change scents whenever you want. I also like that williams uses constant voltage boards and it does not matter what speed you are running it at even if you are very slow the headlight and smoke are the same. 

I had unplugged the smoke unit in my Williams J as I found it spit a lot and was a mess to clean up.

I decided after reading the above to give it another try, so I reconnected it and tried less drops as suggested. I tried both mega steam and the Bachmann fluid that came with it. Less drops, more drops, nothing stopped the messy spitting, I found the residue from the Bachmann fluid to be very sticky and hard to get off.

So off came the shell and I unplugged it again, but I also found a surprise waiting for me. The smoke unit is held on by hot melt glue and during my testing it was melting down, and there was long strings of glue hanging down. I can’t believe that they would decide to use something that melts to hold something that heats up.

Every time the Williams name comes up people jump in to say how bullet proof they are, I agree they do run great, and are well painted,  but are not perfect, the smoke units are junk and are poorly installed to boot.

For an extra $100 more I could of got an Imperial J with a die cast tender of the correct design, PS2 operation, a smoke unit that works, crew figures, a hidden motor with a back head and lighted smoke box.