I'm at the point in my layout where I'm screwing track to the layout. I'm putting in provisions for block signals and want to know how I do that with Atlas 3R switches. I need to keep the outside rails electrically isolated, but adding the switch for a couple spurs connects them so that anything on the spur will show up as being on the main line's block. I'm using the outside rail of the loop for the block detection and the inside rail as the common rail. The spurs all go to the inside of the loop if that matters. Thanks.
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I also use the outside rail for signaling and the inside rail for common. In several locations on my layout I have a switch at the beginning or end of a block, and in those locations I used insulated joiners on both the inside and outside rails on the end of the switch that's adjacent to the next block. Similarly, I used insulated joiners on both the inside and outside rails where switches join to spurs and yard tracks. This solves the problem of an occupied spur showing up as a mainline block being occupied.
Thanks for the info. I took a long look at the switches and figured out if I remove the jumper wire that connects the through outside wire from the turnout side's rail that allowed me to still have the blocks with a switch in the middle and not set the signal from the spur. Now that'll probably change if I go tot a loop within a loop with spurs in the middle of that.
Unfortunately the Atlas switch machines don't have any spare contacts for signalling. To get a clear block the switch should also be included.
The deluxe under table machines do have double pole double throw contacts. There is also the
Snap 200 relay that can be paralleled with any existing switch machine. Click on underline phrases to link Atlas parts detail.
It is interesting to note that Atlas 6931 dwarf lights are designed to work with existing Atlas switch motors.
More advanced, non-derail, switch motor wiring involves the 6924 relay boards.
Perfect Thanks Mike.
I'm asking about train block signaling, not point position signaling.
Ok... Switch point position is certainly an important part of block signalling... If a spur siding switch is open the block will show occupied.. Then again it's your railroad, the main thing is having fun.