Wiring a second signal?

How is the 1008 controlling the 1050? With the sensor blocked, and the 1008 NO contact going to common, controlling the ellow wire of the 1050? Then just use the 1008 NC contact being on common to control the second 1050 yellow wire. Is that it?

Thank you. That's pretty much what we've done. I realize, though, that I didn't ask my question correctly. What I want to do is to wire the signals and switch so that if the turnout on the lower level is green, the 1050 on the lower level is also green, but the 1050 on the upper level is red. If the turnout on he lower level is red, so too is the 1050 on the lower level, but the 1050 on the upper level is green. I thought I could daisy chain them together and just reverse the input/output wires, but that doesn't work.

I don't think  that  type of signal is going allow you work the Signal Head  that way.

It's because of the electronics that is  built into the Base of the Signal.

The Signal looks like a Train Z type Signal. Not a very good Picture of  your Signal.

 You'r going to have to use a plan type of Signal, that doesn't have any electronics built in here.

Just a plan Signal head.

 Good Luck .John

Thank you. I appreciate the help.

They are Z-Stuff signals. I have a Lionel signal (somewhere) that doesn't have electronics built in. I'll try using that on the upper level.

Jim

Well according to the Z Stuff data sheet on the 1050, if you block the sensor then the signal switches according to grounding (connecting to common) the Yellow (input) wire on it. So I thought if you kept it grounded (using the NC contact of the 1008) when the lower 1050 was green, it (the upper 1050) would stay red. Then when the lower 1050 went red and the 1008 switched ungrounding the upper yellow wire, the upper would go to green. No?

Could somebody post a Picture of Z Stuff Signal  Schematic, so we could see we what were talking about Here ? Like I said earlier. I don't think the electronics of the Signal is designed that way. 

Good luck , John

Here is the instruction sheet for the 1050. Option C states you can set it to green or red manually I believe. And my suggestion was to do that with the appropriate 1008 relay output from the 1st 1050 which is connected to the switch.

http://www.z-stuff.net/instruc...-60-80%206-19-07.pdf

http://www.z-stuff.net/app33.html

Jim,

It sound like you would like to use a two Headed Signal at  your Switch points. 

If so, please let me know.

The lower Signal Head for your dividing route?

The upper Signal Head for  the normal route?   

Yes ! John 

That Z Stuff Signal is not designed that way.

Its design for a straight iron operation. 

Thanks for sending the Signal Schematics.

Please let me know your going to use a different type Signal Head.

Good luck.John  

Two headed signal. Hmmm. I hadn't thought about that. A dividing and normal route is what we want to do. I've got a couple dwarf signals that I can temporarily hook up and will try that. It will be a couple of days before I can get back to this project, (gonna ride on the Steam in the Valley) but I'll let you know how it works out.  But thanks again everyone. I truly appreciate all the help.

Jim

Jim:

My apologies if I misunderstood your question/meaning. If by daisy chain you mean connecting the upper level 1050 in series with the lower level 1050 then what you want to do won't work. Both signals should be connected to the 1008 in parallel. With both 1050's connected to the 1008 activating the relay will control both signals. If I am correct connecting the upper signal opposite the lower signal with respect to NO/NC will allow one light to go green while the other goes red. 

Joe

Thank you, Joe. That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought about wiring the signals in parallel. It looks like we've got a couple of things to try.

Jim

Tim,  Integrated Signals Systems.com.

He has different type electric board for this type and Signal of operation.

Good luck, John  

Jim Brenner posted:

Thank you, Joe. That's a good suggestion. I hadn't thought about wiring the signals in parallel. It looks like we've got a couple of things to try.

Jim

Good luck Jim and please post your results

Joe