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guys, I was at the Depot and got red/white solid bell wire as suggested by many.  I looked for a way to hook the buildings up easy.  thought of 3M splice ons, but cant find a cheap bulk pack.  so.  I looked at the murray electric box parts and found the Ground bus bars for 5 dollars a piece.  the bar with 20 spots for wires is a good thing.  Can I electrify the bar?  these are meant for ground.  I would screw this onto wood and maybe isolate with rubber under it just for safe sake.  But is this a way to do it? its would be so easy to hook the wire to this.  I thought of using Romex from the transformer to the bus bar, then use the indivdual spots for each house and a set for the street lights.  nice and organized.  

 

thoughts on this? 

thanks.  this is the pic of one.  but can you use do this for our trains? 

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There are two types of bars. A ground bar is usually un-insulated. A neutral bar is insulated, and comes with plastic mounting post.   Either would be acceptable for model train wiring at 18 volts (low voltage wiring). This type of termination worked well to 18 ga solid wire (I used thermostat cable and 18 ga THHN single strand solid conductor for accessory/switch wiring and 14ga solid THHN wire for track power). You may find that 18ga stranded and smaller may not work as well with this type of termination designed for residentual wiring, most likely 14 ga and larger.  Note the two conductors terminated under one screw, acceptable here, but not in standard house wiring (One terminal, one wire). Be sure your termination is tight.      
I used the neutral bars, note the insulation post on the end of the bars.




Working track feeds and accessory/switch motor feeds back to the power distribution center, Commons, usually the white wires,  are picked off and terminated on these electrical connection bars.  Eventually, using automatic non-de-rail switching, track common and accessory common become the same by jumpering between buss bars.
Common termination complete. Track power, accessory power and switch power are handle via other devices pictured.   Note that track and accessory fusing has been added.


Track block fusing upper left, (8) circuits.  Accessory and switch power fusing right.

Two grey IC Controls boxes (BPC's, Block Power Controllers) to the left switch track blocks. (8)
(5) of the (6) grey IC Controls device boxes (ASC, Accessory Switch Controllers) to the right switch Atlas switches. The one remaining control lower left does accessory switching, off and on.   All control is via a Cab1 remote via ACC(Accessory) or SW(Switch) commands.

 

Important to note that there have been some issues of late on this forum that some of this is too techno...... , way beyond comprehension.    In the "Keep in simple" environment, please note that all of this is done (One Wire, one device,  At A Time)   

Mike CT   

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Wow,  that is very well designed and impressive.  you must be a profesional electrician.  I am going to either use this or scotch lock on each building to the bus wire.  I am only doing a temporary layout.  but the big one in my garage will use these bus bars then.  I am glad there is no issue.  I did not think there was, but wanted to make sure the material of the thing would not get real hot or something. 

Chris

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

If the busbars don't get hot in your power panel with 200 (or in my case 400) amps running around, I doubt your trains will heat them up!

As John indicated the buss bars pictured would be acceptable in a 200 amp residentual panel.  They are copper, clad with a tin coating. IMO the only train related problem is the size of the holes and wire smaller than 18 gauge.  You do have to monitor the terminations, a loose termination can cause heating and eventual failure, IMO a remote posibility, most likely something would quit working first.   Aluminum termination was/is always an issue but I doubt we would ever see that in model train wiring.  

 

didnt think so, but I have to ask.  I decided to run 2 sets of bus wires and split up the loads anyway.  I just used 3M suitcase connectors nice and easy and fast.  hooked it all up last night. 

 

I do have one question.  with the KW, does it matter which side you hook the pos and neg to on the accessory middle posts?  because with polarity in these anyway is strange.  I can always use the z1000 brick also which does have common and hot labled on the brick.  so I can be safe with the LED's.  I might just do that. 

I used 2 bus wires for pos and neg, and scotch clipped the buildings to the wire.  worked well and easy!   roads just made and parking lots from white foam board, needs painted now if the rain would stop!!!!!!  maybe tonight before dark!  who knows.  then the fumes need to air out on porch.  wife will kill with fumes!

 

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