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First, I will confess my wiring skills are severely limited.  I have a Lionel 3356 the Horse car with corral, and a Lionel 364C Contactor Switch. 

 

I downloaded and printed Lionel's instructions for the 3356 and followed the wiring diagram there.  I also looked at the wiring diagram in the Greenberg 1945-1969 Repair and Operating Manual. 

 

There is power to the corral because the horses vibrate and move around the corral.  However, when the horse car doors are lined up properly , and I flip the switch, the doors do not open.  All the connections are secure.  Nothing is loose.

 

The Lionel diagram seems to show that a wire should run from the corral platform to the 364C switch and then to the contractor, AND also run to the Transformer (power supply). 

 

The Greenberg diagram shows a wire running from the corral platform through the 364C controller/switch to the contactor. 

 

What I have done, perhaps stupidly, is run a wire from the contactor to the switch, connecting it to switch post A.  I have also connected to switch post A, a wire running from the corral platform to the 364C controller/switch.  So, I have two wires attached to Post A on the controller/switch.  Attached to Post B of the 364C switch/controller is a wire running to track power/transformer. 

 

Can someone describe, in very simple terms, how to properly wire the 3356 with the 364C?

 

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by frogvillejunctionrailroad:

I don't have a lockon attached to the track,but I do have the arms of the corral properly attached to the track (O gauge).  I'll have to make sure they hit the shoes on the bottom of the car.  Thanks for the help. 

Are you using an OTC Lockon for the horse car?

 

 

You need the OTC Lockon:

 

 

And the clips for use with O-Gauge:

 

 

Like this:

 

Last edited by ADCX Rob

Hi Rob,

 

I have the OTC Lockon, the OTC Controller, and all the other parts you mention.  I tried rewiring the whole thing according to the Greenberg manual, which is similar to the diagram you posted, and voila, it worked somewhat.  There is power to the horse car and the corral.  The horses move.  However, the horses move in the opposite direction - from up to down, that is from right to left. Is this due to the way I have wires attached to the A and B posts of the 364C controller?   Also, they move fast although I have tried adjusting the adjustment screw on the underside of the corral.  Also, even though I have opened the center door on the horse car and have tried raising the metal bar that work in connection with the ramp doors, the ramp doors still only open slightly when I operate the 364C controller.  Could that be due to the way I have the A and B posts wired on the 364C controller? 

Switch the wires connected to the corral base to change the current flow. They should move in the correct direction. The 364C is only passing the voltage through, an on\off switch, normally off.

 

If you have a transformer with a separate accessory post, connect the wire from the 364C to the acc. post and reduce the voltage to ~ 14 volts or until you get the speed you like.

Last edited by Moonman
Originally Posted by ADCX Rob:
Originally Posted by Moonman:

Switch the wires connected to the corral base to change the current flow. They should move in the correct direction.

That shouldn't make a lick of difference!  The corral has no way to sense the phase of the AC current, nor to do anything with that "knowledge".

Rob,

I assumed the magnetic field of the coil would cause the center piece to rotate based on the polarity as well as vibrate for the AC cycles.

 

How did switching the wires cause the horses to move in the desired direction?

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Last edited by Moonman
Originally Posted by ADCX Rob:
Originally Posted by Moonman:

Rob,

I assumed the magnetic field of the coil would cause the center piece to rotate based on the polarity as well as vibrate for the AC cycles.

 

How did switching the wires cause the horses to move in the desired direction?

It was something else - there is no polarity to AC. 

 

Were the horses going backwards?

Yes.

From above, "  There is power to the horse car and the corral.  The horses move.  However, the horses move in the opposite direction - from up to down, that is from right to left. Is this due to the way I have wires attached to the A and B posts of the 364C"

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