Wiring Ross Double Crossover

Thank you for the post. I plan on wiring my double crossover this weekend and will eagerly be reading this thread. I was not going to use the relay but "double up" the opposite switches on the same switch remote contoller.

Yes "double up" the opposite switches on the same switch remote contoller, using two controllers. Relay for engines that don't have the ability to keep power as it crosses.

Thank you Zygmont. That answers a lingering question I have had after reading the "advanced" wiring scheme for the double crossover on the Ross website.

I successfully installed and wired my double crossover tonite. I hope to fine tune the switches this weekend.

 KG I am eager to hear how your installation is progressing.

Zygmont, the "doubling up" of the switches worked like a charm.

Anyone  knows?

I have lost the instructions for the Miller sign #4804 Converter Moodule and need to know which wire is what.

The one wire on the left is the dc?

The one wire to the right ( on the white wire side ) is AC likefor a lionel transformer

White is the hook up to sign?

Please Help

Think this is in wrong thread!!

What Z Stuff diagram are you using.  Curious why two buttons.

I sed the original wiring diagram which came with the crossover. Ross has a couple of PDFs on the website technical section showing wiring diagrams but one PDF wil no download. I believe that is the PDF for the simplest wiring sscheme which they included.

I actually wired the track using that diagram six months ago. Put the crossover onn the shelf, lost the wiring instructions and then installed this weekend. I did not use relays so I just wired the opposite switches in tandem.

KG can probably speak better to the relays.

Suppose you only want to cross over from the outside loop to the inside loop, but then you want the train (or other trains on the inner loop already) to keep running on the inner loop.  You would set only two diagonally opposite switches OUT with one set of buttons.  The other diagonal pair would remain Thru.

I need a really, really simple to understand diagram if I’m ever to get my croosover to work. Someone once wired it all to 1 controller and it worked, but I don’t know how it was wired at that time. I’d like to have something I can follow to wire it up with 2 controllers. Something maybe color-coded, or at least very simple to understand.

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Thank you for the post. I plan on wiring my double crossover this weekend and will eagerly be reading this thread. I was not going to use the relay but "double up" the opposite switches on the same switch remote contoller.

Yes "double up" the opposite switches on the same switch remote contoller, using two controllers. Relay for engines that don't have the ability to keep power as it crosses. (WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?)

Suppose you only want to cross over from the outside loop to the inside loop, but then you want the train (or other trains on the inner loop already) to keep running on the inner loop.  You would set only two diagonally opposite switches OUT with one set of buttons.  The other diagonal pair would remain Thru.

The double X can be a real pain to get wired correctly. There are 4 switch machines. Yes you could probably wire it with one push button , Everything straight or everything curved.

Where it gets complicated is trying to prevent some  engines from stalling on certain routes.

 (also the non-derailing feature). To prevent stalling the DZ-relay comes into play by borrowing an outside rail and making it hot. With only one push button and the crossover lined  for both routes  crossing over ,there's a dead short on one of the  routes. As I mentioned this thing can drive you nuts.  I think that's why you need the second controller.

If running TMCC or DCS  I would set up 3 route,   1- everything straight,2- only one crossover lined... 3, the other crossover lined.Now you have to get the leds lit correctly. Fortunately with the Z-1000s you can swap led  positions.

Give me 2 separate crossovers any day,,, Ok I know they look neat and you already have them.