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I bought a new Z4000 in May 2012, to supplement more power requirements.  After about a month of infrequent use I was running trains for a few hours and when I shut all the trains down at the end of the session, one train happened to have the engine on one "block" of the transformer and the caboose on the other "block" of the transformer. Each having a roller touching the center rail.  That's not a problem that I've ever seen cause any issues.  I never really always had a specific parking of trains location that was a rule.

 

About an hour later, as I went to power up  the Z4000 with the right throttle, the voltmeter ready only half of the normal 18 volts?  Normally when I have a train spanning two blocks, each on a different throttle, when powering either throttle up to 18 volts, the other meter will go up to 18 volts in sync. also, without even having to move the other throttle.  I always just move the other throttle up to match the first throttle setting.  I was a little surprised at just half voltage so I went around the layout and any train that was on two blocks, I manually moved the train to a single block.   The problem went away as I powered up to 18 volts.

 

Then one day, about a month ago, when powering up the right throttle, no voltage increased above zero.  I checked everything and then swapped the leads on the back of the transformer to make sure I didn't have a track problem.  No matter what I put on the right side made the any difference as the voltage would not increase.  I used another outlet on a different 20 amp breaker and it made no difference.  All extension cords are 14 gauge wire and I have multiple power supplies on four different 20 amp breakers.  So, I believed the transformer was going to have to go back to MTH for repair.  After unplugging the transformer and putting it in another room, I plugged it in and the right side now had power from still another 20 amp breaker circuit.   I believed that I had a receptacle and 20 amp breaker problem.  The next day I went to power up the transformer again and back to zero voltage?

 

After sincerely having a belief that the transformer was not going to work on the right throttle, no matter what load or leads were plugged into the back of the right side, I continued to use the Z4000 on the left side only without any problems.  I operated it for many cycles over the next two weeks and the right side was still inop.  I couldn't believe the location and receptacles wasn't part of the problem.  I moved the transformer to a couple of other receptacles and 20 amp circuits and still no change.

 

Then the next morning, knowing that I was wasting my time, I powered up the right throttle and it gave me full voltage, or so I thought.  After putting the appropriate leads back on the right throttle, as I powered up, the transformer handle had to be moved as far as it would rotate to give me 19 volts.   All this time and the left throttle never had a problem and gives an easy 22 volts if rotated that far.  Changing the leads on the back made no difference as the problem stays with the right throttle.

 

I'm looking for another possible solution before having to send the Z4000 to MTH.

 

Thanks,  Moke Mike

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Had a simular problem with the Z4000 at the club. One side worked the other would give a short indication as soon as the handle was increased even with nothing connected to the output. This lasted about a week and I was ready to pull it out and send it in for repair when it started working. It has been working fine now for about two years. Go figure.

 

Al

Hi,  I had a similar problem.  The right handle of my Z-4000 was intermittent.  Sometimes there was no voltage, sometimes there was a short, and sometimes it worked.  I sent it to MTH.  The shipping was expensive and the repair cost about $80 since it was out of warranty.

 

MTH told me there was something loose between the connection of the right handle and the transformer.  This caused intermittent operation depending on the temperature of room, time of day, etc.

 

It has worked for two years without problems since it was repaired.

 

Joe

One suggestion I have is to take the cover off, or have an ASC tech take the cover off, and see if the gears index marks line up. If they do, the ASC tech can order a potentiometer, which varies the voltage according to handle position. These are not too tough to change, and it is one of the few parts MTH will sell to ASCs. Most of the Z4k transformers have to go back, too much liability issues, and there are a lot of boards and parts in these transformers.

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