3rd Rail F7 ATSF YellowBonnet?

I have the MTH set, and they are very nice, especially with fixed pilots and Kadee couplers. They can be found once in awhile if you're patient. 

 

 

I personally don't think Scott would get enough orders to make that paint scheme. That's just my opinion of course. I will use the YBs to pull the combine Super Chief-El Capitan train once the GGD El Cap cars are shipped.

 

 

Although not prototypically accurate, I used the Yellow Bonnets to pull the GGD Super Chief cars last weekend to break them in (the cars).  

I love warbonnets, but have a hard time with the yellow version.

 

Art

I will use the YBs to pull the combine Super Chief-El Capitan train once the GGD El Cap cars are shipped.

Whoa, I think your the first to mention running the combined SC-El Cap.  That will be some train!  

 

The El Capitan on it's own, only lasted for a couple of years 56-58, if I got that right.  Although, the Hi-level El Capitan is out of my time frame, I'm really temped to buy it to do the same thing.

I agree with Chigman.  Maybe if I bought a set they would grow on me... then again so would toenail fungus.  

Yellow is my favorite color, so I am definitely looking for a set of these.

I think the yellow bonnets ran between OKC & Dallas, and also in California. So they would definitely be on my list. I also believe they ran at the end of ATSF passenger/ start of Amtrak. Would love to see 3rd Rail offer this option to see if there is sufficient interest.

I have to admit that my wife actually claims ownership on the yellow bonnets. We saw them in a local hobby shop and she loved the colors and wanted them. So I was assigned the duty of finding "her" a set for a decent price. The local hobby shop had them priced 1.5 times above retail.... so she tells everyone that "I bought them for her" although she has no clue how to run them. She just likes to watch them go by.

 

What a GREAT lineup - Thanks Doug

The War Bonnet is arguably one of the finest paint schemes on any F unit, but being a UP guy the Yellow Bonnets have always held a soft spot for me and I would purchase a set. Never bought any other road but UP so I must like them. 

 

Butch

I would go for one too, With our little layout coming down soon and the start of a larger one I could justified getting it.  I know it would be our whole train budget for the year.  Nick  

The great thing is that it would not appear to take much to change from a warbonnet to yellowbonnet scheme,

TSU Sam,

Why not email Scott and tell him you would like him to list this variation on his website and then wait for the reservations to come in?

Just a thought.

Ed

That's a great idea Sam, and also send Scott the link to this thread showing him there are several people right here that are interested in owning a set of 3rd Rail Yellow Bonnets. Maybe he will add it to the schemes already on pre-order, I don't know how many orders of each he needs in order to do them.

Personally, because they appear to be very scarce, this could be a home run for 3rd Rail with not a lot of effort.

I would agree with Brian above - even the Rail King 'Scale' models are not easily located. I would be interested in a 3rd Rail offering

Well I just sent Scott an email with the suggestion for Yellow Bonnets. We shall see....  

"Well I just sent Scott an email with the suggestion for Yellow Bonnets. We shall see.... "

 

Many thanks.

 

 

Well as I suspected, Scott doesn't think the yellow Bonnets are popular enough to demand a listing for pre-orders. A few here that folks here that would reserve that paint scheme, wouldn't meet a minimum requirement. 

"Well as I suspected, Scott doesn't think the yellow Bonnets are popular enough to demand a listing for pre-orders. A few here that folks here that would reserve that paint scheme, wouldn't meet a minimum requirement."

 

Thanks for trying this route. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

What would be the minimum requirement?

I didn't chime in, but would like one.

Scott says 25-30 units combined, A/B, 2/3 rail.

You would think in the O gauge world he could sell30 units with ease.  Just my thought,  It would even be wise to order a extra one to sell a year down the road.  Nick 

In Scotts defense, he does not require any deposit for his pre-orders.  This is great for the customer, but not so good from Scott's end when people back out.  He runs the risk of being stock with a lot of expensive product.

 

If he required a minimum (non-refundable) deposit of lets say $100 per unit, thus an A-B-A set would be $300.  I am guessing that the buyer is less likely to back-out.  But this could be upsetting to the customer.

These are just my thoughts, it is his business and he is free to run it however he chooses.

 

 

Not sure that 3rd Rail would need to do an A-B set, I think a A-A set would be more prototypical with the regular warbonnet B's being used in between. Perhaps those in the know could chime in. I would think / hope there would be at least 25-30 interested in this scheme, but Scott know's his business and am always grateful that he is around to do ANY projects more accurately than MTH  / Lionel. See below article on the Yellowbonnets.

http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/BackRalph/Yellow.pdf

Really excellent posting on this topic.

ok, so in theory if there were say 13 people between 3-rail & 2-rail rail that bought an A-A or A-B pair, then Scott could very well do this.  I would be in for a 2-rail ABA order.

Between this Thread and the one started on the Traditional Board, it appears there are an insufficient number of Forum members interested in the Yellow Warbonnets. Too bad.

Is that true Brian?

 

I've not been following too closely but it certainly seems that 13 - 15 people would be easily doable!   Especially if some ordered an ABBA...

 

We don't yet own a 3rd Rail product but I would be in for these.

The 3rd Rail F units do NOT/will not disappoint!

Sam:

 

Since 3rd Rail is doing F units, and you are correct, many of us would order multiple Yellow units, it may be worth at least adding them to their offerings. If it turns out to be an insufficient number of orders generated, they can always cancel the production run.

 

Hope Scott is reading this.

c.sam I am with you.  I don't have anything from III rail yet, but from everything others have posted about their recently received models (including great pics) they seem to be excellent.  I wasn't planning on a set of these (as I model DT&I mostly) but this of course is the SF warbonnet in a neat color.  I did just order the GM train of tomorrow just a few weeks back - so I guess I am all in now!   I would be fine if Scott added it to the list and if it gets cancelled - so be  it.

We are saving up for a set (ABA) if they are produced - would be a neat 

Christmas present 

TSU Sam,

 

I may be chiming in a little late, but Williams also manufactured the yellow F3 warbonnets in an AA set with B units available for separate sale.  The body style is almost identical to the Lionel and RailKing scale F3.  The Williams model has a scale pilot, True Blast horn/whistle, 6 amp electronic reverse.  Chicagoland Hobby has a set of AA units in stock.

 

Bob

No offense intended to anyone but you can't compare a Williams or RailKing model to 3rd Rail's F units. Being yellow is about the only thing they have in common.

Laidoffsick:

 

I have to agree. Your comment reminds me of the commercial where the mustard company drew a comparison with a European country of the same name. That was one of the funniest commercials, ever. The message behind the commercial was not all that funny as it dealt with USA flyovers.

 

I look at it this way, if 3rd Rail doesn't do this project, then I will resort to having a set custom painted. Should not be a big deal as the body on a set of Sante Fe F units, other than the red Warbonnet and logo won't need to be touched.

 

I just acquired a set of 21" K-line Sante Fe Lightweights, so all I need now are the engines. Should make a beautiful passenger train.

 

Thanks for your post, I did get a kick out of it.

After I got over the shock of seeing a yellow nose, while my brother-in-law, who lives in Superior, Ne. were going Southbound to Concordia, Ks and, and while driving along the AT&SF track going to Superior, I saw a freight train coming toward us.  I thought something was wrong with the colors on the lead F-3.  When we were passing each other, I thought the Yellow loco's were a case of AT&SF going out of its gourd, painting beautiful red nose F-3's yellow.  I was stone sober at the time, so I can swear that what I saw, I saw.

Al

No offense taken.  I agree there is no comparison to 3rd Rail F units.  MTH Premier and RailKing were thrown into the ring.  So with the seal being broken, I threw in Williams.  Someone might be interested.  Never know...

Probably NOT on this forum, however. Since this is the "3-Rail SCALE Forum", the emphasis is on SCALE model correct representation of the prototype.