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Looks like an expensive booboo!
Holy Cow. That's going to hurt someone's bottom line.
Warren Buffet won't be happy since it was on BNSF tracks. Hope their liability insurance is all paid up. That is a multi-millon dollar loss.
It'll buff out.
Mitch
Warren Buffet won't be happy since it was on BNSF tracks. Hope their liability insurance is all paid up. That is a multi-millon dollar loss.
Sorry but, it was on the Montana Rail Link, and NOT BNSF.
According to Reuters it was BNSF unless I missed something in the article.
......That is a multi-millon dollar loss.
That's an understatement!
All 3 of those fuselages are scrap. They look so funny and out of place sitting there. Bet it made a **** of a noise when it happened!
That is cool. that is really cool. Thanks for posting.
Planes, Trains, and . . . there must be automobile about somewhere!
According to Reuters it was BNSF unless I missed something in the article.
BNSF and ML have a operating agreement through there. The locos may have been BNSF, but they were running under the MRL control.
Our sister wife's ex husband works for MRL, he has the kids this month and called to let her know that he was going to have to leave the kids with relatives while he had to go the site.
Chris:
Thanks for the clarification.
Neal Jeter
Okay, who's going to model that?
Super big buck insurance claim, not only for the fuselages but for any production delays at Boeing.
Well, at least it speaks well for Boeing's quality, they held together pretty well after the big slide.
Other than wet,seems the sleds took the trauma!
As they say at the auctions.... Boeing, Boeing, Boeing, Gone!
Now there's something you don't see everyday.
Montana Rail Link from Washington Corporations on Vimeo.
Might be able to salvage the one that never reached the water.
That's a train/plane wreck, caused by a derailment. The media need to get their terms straight! Two modes of transportation in one incident.
Don
My son-in-law's father is a pilot, according to him they are now all considered scrap and will never see any air time! Tick's him off because he is waiting for a new 737 to fly! Cost, Several million each......
I'm a pilot too, and I'm sure some of the stuff will be salvaged and used. It all depends on what's damaged and what the damage is. The stuff that went into the water is probably toast, but the cars that just derailed and the cargo is intact, I'd expect that material to be evaluated on an individual basis. I worked in Aerospace for years, and I saw lots of stuff that was damaged and returned to service after repairs.
The insurance company isn't going to just shell out the money without a fight.
"The insurance company isn't going to just shell out the money without a fight".
John, did you mean to say, "without a flight?"
Well, it's a bit early for a flight, at least for these birds.
Well, it's a bit early for a flight, at least for these birds.
Mitch
Ok, what was Boeing thinking when they came up with this "plane on a train" idea in the first place?
,,,,,and this train, even though it was on MRL, was under contract from BNSF. So BNSF more than likely is not out of the legal minefield.
Ok, what was Boeing thinking when they came up with this "plane on a train" idea in the first place?
Basically, it's about the only way to get entire fuselages cross-country. The durn things are too big for interstate trucking...
Mitch
Ok, what was Boeing thinking when they came up with this "plane on a train" idea in the first place?
They have shipped a few thousand this way for years from Kansas to Washington.
interesting accident, thank for sharing
Ok, what was Boeing thinking when they came up with this "plane on a train" idea in the first place?
Yeah, why would anybody ship anything by railroad....
Rusty
BNSF and ML have a operating agreement through there. The locos may have been BNSF, but they were running under the MRL control.
MRL crews take control of these BNSF trains between Billings and Spokane.
Ok, what was Boeing thinking when they came up with this "plane on a train" idea in the first place?
They have shipped a few thousand this way for years from Kansas to Washington.
OK< but why not build the whole thing either in Kansas or Seattle? Parts by rail, yes. But airplane bodies? I know they have been doing it for years, but I don't see the logic in it.
Ok, what was Boeing thinking when they came up with this "plane on a train" idea in the first place?
They have shipped a few thousand this way for years from Kansas to Washington.
OK< but why not build the whole thing either in Kansas or Seattle? Parts by rail, yes. But airplane bodies? I know they have been doing it for years, but I don't see the logic in it.
I believe it has to do with modern large corporate business models. There is also a Boeing plant, in South Carolina, a right to work state. The two or more production facilities appear to be a labor cost control system.
Air Bus does a similar thing with the A380. Large parts are built in England and shipped to a final assembly point mainland Europe.
They also ship these large parts around by air cargo. This cargo plane, (747 Dream Lifter), made the news when it landed at the wrong airport. Click on the underlined phrase to link. After reviewing the short runway problem, they decided to take-off from the short runway. You have to think the pilot pushed the throttles all the way up. Cargo was a 787 fuselage. 787 components are light weight composite material v.s. traditional aluminum.
So there is a control of shipping cost also. Air freight v.s. rail freight.
Wild world, IMO, Mike CT
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OMG! The only LHS in all China is now closed.
ROFLMAO! Good 'un.
Mitch
This guy was definitely NOT in charge of these landings!!!!...
Maybe the BNSF should've had him in the right-hand cab seat of this 'flight'!?
Saw a cable TV show on treehouses not long ago. Someone took an old airliner, put it up in the trees in the tropics somewhere as a treehouse. So, here ya go!!!...Cheap! (except for the cost to extract from their current location!!) Somebody will know how to make a buck off this mess.
I know, I know!!!....Engineer at the throttle?....Gerald McBoeing-Boeing!! Hoo-boy, now I AM dating myself!!!!
KD
OK< but why not build the whole thing either in Kansas or Seattle? Parts by rail, yes. But airplane bodies? I know they have been doing it for years, but I don't see the logic in it.
Well one reason is Boeing no longer builds the fuselage. It is built by Spirit Aerosystems In Wichita.
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