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Hello all,

Hoping to get some advice/best practices as I get ready to wire my 10 x 14 layout. Here's some background...

Two loops...outside is 72 and inside is 54. loops are connected at one end. I will use two 80 watt transformers until I can buy a ZW...one 80 for the outside and one for inside. Loop connecting switches will be insulated. I'll use 14 gauge on all track runs with flat spade connects inserted into bottom of rails. I'll be wiring switches and accessories eventually but for now I want to just focus on track power...so now the needed advice.

I've read magazines and talked with my local train store and a ground buss wire seems to be the most efficient way to go...I was thinking I would run a separate buss wire for each loop since I have the dual transformers. I plan to have track connection about every 36 inches...local train store told me to alternate the ground at each connection. For instance, if my first ground connection is to the outside rail, then the next, 36 inches down the line would be to the inside...and so on. Would you all agree that is the correct approach? Also, since I plan to connect track feeder wires to terminal blocks and have the buss wire connect to each block, I'm assuming I should run the buss wire as I go rather than string the entire line in advance? I want to insure I have enough slack in buss wire for any additional connections down the road. Make sense?

My confusion is with the power wire (red). If I'm connecting red power every 36 inches, should I run  a red buss wire as well or run all red feeders to terminal strips and then one wire to the transformer?

I've attached a PDF of the track plan in case that helps. Thanks in advance for all comments for this novice modeler, this is my first time so want to make sure its right from the start.

Roy

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As for your hot (red) feeder question...in looking at your track plan, i would run a hot feed to two terminal strips - one strip at each side of layout - and distribute your track feeders from there.  A 10x14 layout is not that huge that you'd have a significant loss of voltage over your distances such that you'd need a bus wire around the entire layout.

I am attaching this link on the forum.  Look at 2 train wiring info.

https://ogrforum.com/fileSendA...sformer%20manual.pdf

Only feed either the outside (or inside) rail not both, as you lose one of the great features of 3R operation.  Let the wheels complete the circuit.

Study the separation of "blocks" on the link.  Conventional can operation work just fine.  As mentioned previously you don't need a feed every 36".  Spend the money you save on wire, on buying something "fun" for your layout.

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Thanks for all the advice and I will review the link for sure, thanks for that. Looking for a little clarification on the replies: 1) If every 36 inches is overkill what would you recommend...48, 60 or more? 2)Only feed either the outside (or inside) rail not both, as you lose one of the great features of 3R operation. What is the great feature? the wheels completing the circuit? Any idea why local long time in business and custom layout builder train store advised to alternate the ground rail?



Thanks!

Thanks for all the advice and I will review the link for sure, thanks for that. Looking for a little clarification on the replies: 1) If every 36 inches is overkill what would you recommend...48, 60 or more? 2)Only feed either the outside (or inside) rail not both, as you lose one of the great features of 3R operation. What is the great feature? the wheels completing the circuit? Any idea why local long time in business and custom layout builder train store advised to alternate the ground rail?



Thanks!

1) If every 36 inches is overkill what would you recommend...48, 60 or more?

When i first got my gargraves trackage layed out i tested its conductivity and found i could power about 100 feet of track with one connection and minimal voltage loss.  Add in switches, eventual dust and dirt, more engines and lighted cars and you'll need more feeders.  I have found so far 6 feet to be sufficient.  But since you are putting your spade connectors in from the bottom and probably do not want to have to rip up track to fix a problem area, they probably recommended the 3 ft distance.

2)Only feed either the outside (or inside) rail not both, as you lose one of the great features of 3R operation. What is the great feature? the wheels completing the circuit?

Yes, with wood ties isolating either "ground" rail, you can easily create an insulated track segment by isolating one section of one ground rail from the rest of the trackage and use it to trigger a crossing gate, block signal, panel lights or other accessories.  See https://lionelllc.wordpress.co...utside-rail-6-12029/. Only with Gargraves or Ross wood tie trackage you dont need to buy a special section.

Any idea why local long time in business and custom layout builder train store advised to alternate the ground rail?

Probably just for added assurance you have no electrical problems.  Even if you do alternate your "ground" connections and find you want to create an isolated segment for item 2 above, simply cut the wire to the track and use it for your accessory.

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