Alco #216 confusion

Chuck,

You bring up some great points.  One of the things I've heard over the years is "these trains have been out for 50+ years, everything has been written about Postwar."  Then I tell them to read my publications

I'm in awe of all the great research my colleagues have done over the years.  It takes years of heavy lifting and late nights reading through catalogs, service station manuals, archive observations, interviews with former employees, real world observations of the trains, and so on.

Research is a never ending process driven by passion, curiosity, nostaglia, challenge and yes some insanity.

What changed with Project Roar Publishing was access to the actual production and manufacturing records from Lionel or as I call them the "cheat sheets".  Hence the 216P-25 from 1965.  Yes, it did come with a Horn.  In fact it is the same Alco as the 212P-25 (Santa Fe) from 1964.  Lionel actually re-typed/copied the 212P-25 Production Control file for the 216P-25.  They even made the mistake of re-typing "Santa Fe" and then later crossing it out with pencil.  Pretty cool.

The 216P-25 with Horn came in two promotional outfits 19454-500 (1965) and 19571 (1966).

Once again, thanks for supporting Project Roar and keep reading.  You'll find lot's more goodies not documented anywhere else.

Enjoy,

John Schmid

Author - Authoritative Guide to Lionel's Promotional Outfits 1960 - 1969

www.projectroar.com

The Authoritative Guide to Lionel's Promotional Outfits 1960 - 1969 is a fantastic book for those who are interested in Postwar Lionel.

Is there anything new under development from Project Roars?

CW,

Thanks.  We have couple books in the works, but nothing far enough along to announce yet.  I will definitely do so on this board when we're further along.

Any particular topics you'd be interested in seeing published?

FYI, we just launched our Facebook page and I'm going to start posting some stuff there.  I'm going to a friends house tomorrow for something really cool...he's opening up a sealed set from the 50's.  This is only the 2nd time that I've seen an "old" sealed outfit opened.  We're going to video and hopefully he'll let me post.  I also have the original Lionel production records for the outfit so we're going to compare.  Once again...hopefully he'll let me post the video.

Thanks for all the support.

Regards,

John

www.projectroar.com

Scale Rail,

Thanks for sharing.

How much did you sell it for?  Did you have the outfit box?  Just curious as I continue to do research on pricing.  

Looks like you had a beautiful Sears 9656 from 1962.  It is show on page 377 of my book. 

Regards,

John

www.projectroar.com

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Any particular topics you'd be interested in seeing published?

A similar book about cataloged sets would be great.

Perhaps a book with reproductions of some of the more interesting materials, such as blueprints, artwork, drawings, and historical documents.