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i hope to eventually document the correct clockwork motors for these later tin models, Hiawatha, Zepher, etc.; most of which have very specific motors, based on the standard spring drive, but with additional hardware.  unfortunately i've seen a lot of these models for sale with kluged up drives, though admittedly many that could probably be attributed to the original owner.

 

cheers...gary

Originally Posted by Ace:

I was researching a motor for a related AF Forney-type streamliner last month. The unique hanger bracket on the motor was the clue. It has an odd type of mechanical reversing mechanism. I assume the Minnehaha versions were clockwork powered. 

 

https://ogrforum.com/d...ent/4245430052273116

Ace

the Minnehaha came both electric & clockwork. the electric version has a much simpler design than that one and has no reverse unit.

 

Steve

I have now acquired a Minnehaha train for myself, same as pictured in those first two photos but with three cars! It just needs a motor!

 

Wondering if anyone has specific ideas on motors to fit these things. I'm not looking for original, just something that looks OK and fits in the unusually narrow shell. I have some misc Lionel Scout motors that almost fit but they don't quite have room to pivot inside the shell for curves.

 

Some of the "modern" cheapie Lionel 4-coupled steamers had motor frames that may work if I could fit a smaller DC motor in them. Of course I would have to improvise a pivoting motor mount bracket over the top of the motor frame.

Originally Posted by Ace:

I have now acquired a Minnehaha train for myself, same as pictured in those first two photos but with three cars! It just needs a motor!

 

Wondering if anyone has specific ideas on motors to fit these things. I'm not looking for original, just something that looks OK and fits in the unusually narrow shell. I have some misc Lionel Scout motors that almost fit but they don't quite have room to pivot inside the shell for curves.

 

Some of the "modern" cheapie Lionel 4-coupled steamers had motor frames that may work if I could fit a smaller DC motor in them. Of course I would have to improvise a pivoting motor mount bracket over the top of the motor frame.

A Marx #490 motor would fill the bill if you don't mind the flangeway restrictions*. If these do bother you, maybe a Lionel #1654 motor would work.

 

*you need to use either Marx switches and crossings or early Lionel 027 switches account the driver gears are the same diameter as the flanges.

Ace
Go to Grossmans and get part number 196.
You can attach it to the metal frame of most Marx motors and probably others. I have a Flyer comet that had a bad motor in it. I used one of these brackets with a nice double reduction motor and can run it through most any type switch or crossover.
 
Steve
 
 
Originally Posted by Ace:

I have now acquired a Minnehaha train for myself, same as pictured in those first two photos but with three cars! It just needs a motor!

 

Wondering if anyone has specific ideas on motors to fit these things. I'm not looking for original, just something that looks OK and fits in the unusually narrow shell. I have some misc Lionel Scout motors that almost fit but they don't quite have room to pivot inside the shell for curves.

 

Some of the "modern" cheapie Lionel 4-coupled steamers had motor frames that may work if I could fit a smaller DC motor in them. Of course I would have to improvise a pivoting motor mount bracket over the top of the motor frame.

The Flynn's were the creators of New Marx, and also collector/sellers for many years. This is thier e-bay store, http://myworld.ebay.com/jdpltd...id=p3984.m1543.l2533
 
Great people to deal with.
 
Steve
 
Originally Posted by CH:
So ugly, it's cool. It's just cool to me.
What or whom are the Flynns?
LHS or a collector/museum? Or?

Thanks for sharing Steve.

How do I get some tinplate meets here in KC?
You guys East of the Mississippi, sure have a lot of fun.

Thanks,
Chris
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