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Just took a first look, sighs, still now new motive power.  The few new tooling standard gauge cars are nice, but I  still don't want to jump scales.  The o gauge passenger cars look very nice,  but I  have now idea what to pull them with to satisfy my own esthetics.   

I'm almost there mth, just one more set of drivers under some of these steamers and you will have picked the lock on my wallet. 

I am disappointed in the 2015 offerings. It looks like the same old same old stuff with new names and paint.

I know it must be hard to make some new Standard Gauge items, but please at least give it a try! The cost of some of the items is also high but that's the way things are going now a days. I guess the labor force in China got a raise and the shipping must have gone up.

I guess I am the odd man out here because I see a lot of stuff I like. That may or may not translate into actually buying anything, due to serious storage space issues, but I think this catalog offers something different and positive for tinplate fans. 

 

Most of you don't seem to like putting road names, brand names, etc. on tinplate. I'm agnostic on that point; I've got a fair amount of original and repro tinplate with the old-style paint jobs and ID plates, but I really like some of the paint jobs MTH has put on rolling stock before this catalog, such as Robin Hood Beer, Battleship Hams, Caterpillar, etc. Some of the decoration schemes in this catalog appeal to me as well. I also think that widening the universe of decoration broadens the appeal of tinplate to a larger potential audience. J.L.Cowen painted the original tinplate in bright, unrealistic colors because he believed they appealed to kids. Bright, realistic colors of favorite railroads or brand-name reefer decoration may induce some adult train operators to consider going into tinplate.

 

The new Standard Gauge rolling stock is fantastic. The covered gondolas and sideboard flatcars with wheels are something new that still fits in with the traditional theme. I'm looking forward to more names on the gondolas and different loads on the flatcars. A couple of years ago I bid on a Standard Gauge gondola that someone had fabricated a cover and billboard to look like an old Heinz vat car. I got outbid, but I always liked the concept and I expect I'll wind up with one of the gondolas. Maybe not this time because none of the names really appeals to me, but there will be more. 

 

The two and three dome tank cars are also an excellent idea, and like the gondola and flatcar, they are produced by adding onto existing tooling. Nice. There are also some tempting paint schemes on the older cars. I'll probably have to get a 514R lettered for Robin Hood Beer, just because I have almost every Robin Hood Beer car that's ever been made in 0 or Standard Gauge (including the MTH 214R). 

 

I'm not a big fan of 0 gauge tinplate, but I am mighty tempted by the Milwaukee Road passenger set with a 256E and 700 series passenger cars. The 256E is one of the few prewar 0 gauge locomotives I like, and the maroon and orange looks great on that train. We'll see if I want to spend the money and find a place to put it. At a minimum I'll have to get the baggage car in addition to the basic set so that's 600 bucks, less whatever discount is available. It would look very cool to run that train side by side with the Super 381 and State cars, which I also have in Milwaukee orange and maroon. 

 

On the whole, I'd say this is the most interesting tinplate catalog in a while. 

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Originally Posted by Larry S.:

I am unable to view flip catalog on my computer. Anyone care to help out a buddy and list whats new in O Gauge, at least the main stuff not individual cars . Catalog #'s would help to view thru MTH search

Larry S

You should be able to download a .pdf  file and view it. Look at the MTH website under catalogs.

 

Good Luck

On a second look through the new catalog, I noticed a few other interesting things. First, they are now making a couple of different 0 gauge "transition cars" with a box coupler at one end and a latch coupler at the other. An excellent idea; it's not that hard to do yourself if you need to, but nice to have it available from the factory. They are also offering a few 0 gauge cars with postwar style trucks and couplers. We'll see where that leads.

 

The side rails on the Standard Gauge wheel flatcars are the same piece as the billboard on top of the covered gondola. Clever double use of the same tooling. 

 

I may not be able to resist the Clark Oil Co. Standard Gauge 3-dome tanker. The apartment I lived in for a couple of years at college was right across the street from a Clark station. I can even still remember the radio jingle for "Clark Super 100 Gasoline" - supposedly 100 octane gas at a penny or two over the price of regular. Another attractive choice is the silver PFE dual herald 514R reefer. Looks great, but if I have to pick one it will be Robin Hood Beer. 

 

There are lots of new paint schemes for the Super 381 and State cars. Looks like MTH is on a full court press to recover the tooling costs. I've got mine in Milwaukee Road so no interest in acquiring another. In any case there were some serious design, engineering and quality control issues on the first run and I can't recommend the Super 381. 

the text description for the Flyer 4696 locomotive does not appear to mention the synchronized swinging bell that was a highly advertised feature of the 1931 model.  could anyone who may have actually seen this locomotive in operation verify this?

 

There was a lever on the inside of the cab that allowed you to swing the bell. MTH's traditional version of this had this lever. The Protosound 2 version did not have it.

Originally Posted by JR Junction:

It is a Lionel Corporation Tinplate catalog.

Like the guy said... no matter WHAT they print on the cover of the catalog it is STILL MTH Tinplate Traditions!

 

Don't believe me?

Ask your Lionel Authorized Dealer who he has to order from to get Lionel tinplate trains.

 

It AIN'T Lionel !!!  Enough said!

When a Lionel Authorized Dealer can order Lionel tinplate trains directly through their Lionel salesman and NOT MTH....  then maybe, just maybe you can connect the dots that it's an official Lionel product.  Even though it really isn't.
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When a Lionel Authorized Dealer can order Lionel tinplate trains directly through their Lionel salesman and NOT MTH....  then maybe, just maybe you can connect the dots that it's an official Lionel product.  Even though it really isn't.

 

1) Lionel doesn't have a factory; so everything Lionel makes is made by a contractor
2)Most of the dealers with very few exceptions can't order from Lionel directly-they are required to order through distributors.

3)Lionel's most successful tinplate products, in the modern era were all made through a contract with MTH. When Lionel contracted companies in China to make tinplate the products didn't sell. Yes the Vanderbilt and Hiawatha were great offers and great looking products but both had to be blown out by Lionel.

4)MTH has done an incredible job keeping tinplate alive. Lionel couldn't produce it and make it profitable so why not make money by a license to someone who does tinplate right.

You can get upset that Lionel isn't making the tinplate product; but they aren't making anything else either;it's all contracted to overseas producers.
Scott Smith

Scott,

 

I can't argue with you!

 

It was Mike Wolf who cajoled Lionel into resurrecting Lionel tinplate trains.

 

And I applaud him for it.

 

I am a proud owner of several of the "Lionel Classics" series made in Korea.

 

Top notch manufacturing !!!!  NOT the crap that is now being manufactured in China under the "Lionel Corporation" brand name.

 

I mean, just read the posts on the OGR forum of the current MTH "Lionel Corporation" engines where the brass fittings are misaligned and other discrepancies.

For heaven sake, where is Mike Wolf and Lionel officials monitoring the manufacturing of their products to ensure that the model railroading consumer does not purchase a defective product?

Huh ????

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As a Milwaukee Road Collector I love the new catalog!  Both the O and Standard Gauge Milwaukee Road passenger sets available are great and I would love to own both of them.  Like others, however, my only problem is the high cost. For example, at catalog prices the Milwaukee Road Super 381 with all six matching passengers cars will set me back nearly $3700 plus shipping!  That's a huge commitment to make for just a new paint job when I already own the original tri-color set.  But I am really tempted since I know it is increasingly unlikely they will ever be offered again for sale, which assumes of course that enough orders are received to even warrant the initial production run.

 

OK dealers, make me an offer I can't refuse!

 

Bob Nelson

 

 

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Bob 

The 256 set although O gauge is quite large. The 710 cars are almost as big as the smallest Standard gauge cars. The 256 is not much smaller than a #8.

 

I totally missed the super 381 as MR. I just looked through the cat. and thought it was UP.

 

You would be a popular guy at Trainfest. With both MR super 381s and the Hiawatha steamer set cruising around the SGMA layout.

Originally Posted by arrsd90:

...  As there also have not been any competition, postings here yet, on sponsors trying to garnish pre-order ...

Interesting indeed.  The BTO programs essentially created the field-day we see nowadays where dealers of all sizes compete for pre-orders here on the forum.  Aside from ordering "extras", dealers no longer need to incur the risk of building inventory to create business opportunities.

 

But I don't ever recall seeing the pre-order craziness all that much here on the forum for tinplate items -- certainly not to the degree we've seen for regular O-Gauge catalogs.  Yet tinplate seems to have been a limited, BTO-type product for years now.

 

Perhaps the dealers haven't received their internal-cost pricelist for this latest catalog yet?

 

David

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Originally Posted by Frank Mulligan:
Originally Posted by JR Junction:

2015 Lionel Corporation Tinplate Catalog To Be Released Online August 19

 

August 18, 2015 - M.T.H. Electric Trains will be publishing its 2015 Lionel Corporation Tinplate catalog to the M.T.H. website on Wednesday, August 19th.  We will be taking pre-orders immediately!

Can't seem to find your preorder list.

 

 

Good afternoon Frank and everyone.....

 

As of today (August 25th) MTH has not yet published their dealer price guides.  The initial announcement to dealers indicated they would be available today.  When we have the information from MTH, I will put together our pre-order pricing ASAP.

 

We anticipate our basic pre-order discounts to be nearly the same as last year.

 

Starting tomorrow, Wednesday August 26th through labor day, I am working my State Fair Superintendent job at the Great New York State Fair.  I will still post the LCT 2016 pre-order prices on our web site with a link from here as soon as I get it together (when we get it from MTH).  In the meantime, please e-mail us at sales@jrjunction.com with any questions.  I check my business e-mail every hour, so I will reply almost immediately when I get the e-mail.

 

Throughout the next several days, all orders placed with us for in-stock items will still ship daily as well as incoming pre-orders.

 

Thank you for your continued tinplate business!  We appreciate our valued customers very much!

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