Any reviews on Lionel's 2233312 PRR C-Liner 5 axel engines just released ?
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From a rivet counter viewpoint, PRR did not have any of the 5 axle versions. all of their C-Liners were 4 axle. NYC and LI had 5 axle ones that I know of.
I did a quick video on mine. I think it's pretty nice.
Very handsome engine and a good job on your 'quick video' LOL!
Sure wish Lionel would do more to help the 'scale' enthusiast with their products. I realize that a high percentage of their customers operate on 036 Fastrack requiring considerable modifications for clearance and the like. They could at least include (or offer at a reasonable price) scale components to finish off a nice model like this to avoid the gawky appearance caused by the inordinately huge 'air space' between the rear truck and the chassis as well as the front and the extra long coupler shank at the rear. This is ridiculous to say the least. They could do the same for steam locomotive buyers who want a scale sized pilot wheel rather than the minuscule ones on almost all steamers. More and more of us are running 072 and larger. Come on Lionel!
Great looking engine none the less, thanks for posting!
@c.sam posted:Very handsome engine and a good job on your 'quick video' LOL!
Sure wish Lionel would do more to help the 'scale' enthusiast with their products. I realize that a high percentage of their customers operate on 036 Fastrack requiring considerable modifications for clearance and the like. They could at least include (or offer at a reasonable price) scale components to finish off a nice model like this to avoid the gawky appearance caused by the inordinately huge 'air space' between the rear truck and the chassis as well as the front and the extra long coupler shank at the rear. This is ridiculous to say the least. They could do the same for steam locomotive buyers who want a scale sized pilot wheel rather than the minuscule ones on almost all steamers. More and more of us are running 072 and larger. Come on Lionel!
Great looking engine none the less, thanks for posting!
I think Lionel is making an effort. The F7s just released have little to no gap on the front pilot and good coupler spacing. Not to say its prototypical, but good for what we are used to. I agree the c-liners are in some ways egregious, i.e. the front pilot and 2 inch space between locos back to back. These are the first production run of the former MTH tooling so here’s to hoping they at least modify the spacing on the rear couplers for the next run. Also the smoke units on both of mine are very loud, and yes they are lionel smoke units, not MTH. I found the wire management within the shell to be very organized and clean. Another item to note is the motors are mounted the trucks not the frame. I dont believe the “liondrive” system was used as when I turn the trucks they dont want to go to 90 degrees to drop out. The soundset is almost exactly the same as the last run of Legacy E8s, though I haven't confirmed if the prime mover sounds are the same. All in all they are nice engines. I may try to 3d print a fixed pilot and scale coupler for my lead loco.
C.Sam, I couldn't agree more on all points. It's an excellent video and the model shows promise. Looking at the space between carbody and trucks makes me wonder if there is a relatively easy solution using the technique made famous by Norm Charbonneau and Mario Scalzo:
https://ogrforum.com/...yone-ever-mod?page=1
Thats a great looking engine. On the few videos i've seen the smoke units are very very loud, louder than normal at least to my ears.
@PRR Shawn posted:I did a quick video on mine. I think it's pretty nice.
Super Job with the video, great looking engine !!!
@prrjim posted:From a rivet counter viewpoint, PRR did not have any of the 5 axle versions. all of their C-Liners were 4 axle. NYC and LI had 5 axle ones that I know of.
I am not a rivet counter, but I do like things to have accurate paint schemes and close to accurate details. While I think the engine in the video PRR Shawn posted looks great, the PRR's C-Liners were freight only so did not have the passenger paint scheme. All 8 ABA sets were delivered in the DGLE/single stripe scheme.
I will say this for Lionel, the C-Liners with the A-1-A rear truck were passenger engines so it was fitting they painted this model in passenger colors.
